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Allagash Victor Francenstein

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RATINGS: 66   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.79   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 291   ABV: 9.7%
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COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
2008 Victor aged in a cask w/ bugs and 2009 Cabernet Franc grapes.


4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
durhambeer (2500) - Durham, North Carolina, USA - DEC 15, 2010
Bottle kindly shared by TURDFERGUSON. Nice one, Sam! Pours reddish brown with big, bubbly head that sticks around for the ride. Nose of dark cherry, oak, and a bit of funkiness. Tannic notes from the grapes. Does not taste like itís nearly 10%. Nice acetic notes and dry finish. Great.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
JCB (3999) - Durham, North Carolina, USA - DEC 14, 2010
Got a chance to try this twice, both times courtesy of my man Turd - thanks, Sam! Itís been a long while since I tried Victor, and the addition of extra grapes and more funk almost entirely obscures the beerís distant roots in the tripel (at least if the commercial descriptions of Victor were to be believed). Reddish pour with crisp bubbles and nice retention. Nose is soft cherry skins, wood, a very modest funk. The cab comes through far more in the flavor, no excess heat despite the ABV, and itís like a modified Supplication in some sense. Delish.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 17/20
emacgee (4024) - Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - DEC 1, 2010
Thanks turdfeguson for sharing. Pours a pinkish orange with a wisp of white head. Nose is tart and vinous with a nice earthy funk and hints of fruit skins. Flavor is acetic and tart with a vinous character and nice fruit character. Crisp tart palate.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
kbutler1 (1351) - Minnesota, USA - NOV 26, 2010
Bottle. Opens with a nice big pop of the cork. Poured into a Duck Rabbit snifter glass an opaque apricot orange color with a decent sized white collared head. The aroma is more sour/tart fruit notes with grape, vanilla and oak. As it warms this has vanilla and caramel taste as well. Smell is very wine-esque as well. Light mouthfeel with a lot of carbonation. The carbonation is actually a little much and gets in the way of some of the flavors. The taste starts off with sweet/tart fruit and transitions to a long drawn out wine like dryness with touches of brett florals and medicinal. The alcohol is noticeable in the end and reminds me of wine. Overall, I like this beer but again with some of the other Allagash limited beers, this isnít really mind blowing or life changing at all.

3.7
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
MrChopin (3280) - Baltimore, Maryland, USA - NOV 23, 2010
UPDATED: NOV 25, 2010 The color of raw tuna. Skinny nose of white grape, light sweetness in berry, and a hint of salty brett with plastic undertones. The sweetness is a real problem in the flavor, sugary grape skin, the dusty newspaper of a good lambic, and tea. A bit of an odd finish, elmers glue and a vegetal bitterness, grape-leaves like, accompanied by more berry skins and a bit of sugar. Thin but thankfully not hot. A bit of a mess, both the lack of coherence and the flaws that shoot in and out.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
TURDFERGUSON (3954) - Durham, North Carolina, USA - NOV 22, 2010
Bottle, picked up at the brewery while in Portland in August 2010. Right place, right time. Pours reddish brown with a small bubbled white head. Good retention. Notes of oak, cherry skins, red wine barrels, bugs. For 9.7%, its pretty smooth. This does kind of fall outside the alcohol range for most sour ales, but damn if this isnít pretty durn good. Much better than when I sampled it back in August.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
GAManiac (1944) - Atlanta, Georgia, USA - NOV 5, 2010
Huge thanks to Brad for sharing this one, tasted alongside Gargamel and Vagabond. Pours a clear reddish amber with a small whitish head that recedes quickly to a thin collar and leaves little lacing. The aroma is very bright, lots of lemony tartness and lactic up front but then the grapes take over and are certainly the most prominent feature of the nose. The brett is present but not overdone. The taste is also excellent with the grapes shining through from the beginning with a musty funk from the brett and some lactic acid and lemons thrown in for good measure. Finish is dry and vinous - oaky. The mouthfeel is light bodied, extremely crisp and well carbonated. This was the clear winner against Vagabond and Gargamel. Granted, itís a different type of beer, but it was the tastiest for me. Great American wild and one of Allagashís best.

3.7
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
argo0 (11530) - Washington DC, USA - OCT 24, 2010
357ml bottle, thanks ? Murky amber body with small beige head. Aroma is moderately sweet, funk, wood/cherry, some orange, light lemon. Taste is moderately sweet, funk, cherry, some wood, orange/lemon. Low carbonation, medium-full body.

3.7
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
3fourths (8020) - Boulder, Colorado, USA - OCT 18, 2010
375ml, bottle-conditioned. red-tinted light body, early pour 5% opaque, late pour 40-50%; small white head. nose is mild berry and grape (generic) fruit, medium- acedic acid; med/mild brett and lacto; oak is somewhat heavy, and cabernet franc grape character seems more like blueberries, or maybe itís just somewhat neutralized and the blueberry note comes from the esters and phenols. medium+ dryness in the finish with some unpleasantly high ethyl acetate levels, which makes sense given the high ABV. overall an interesting americanized druivenlambik with some west flanders influence (heavier oak/ethyl acetate) but makes me scratch my head why they came to the decision to make it so strong (even though it is quite delicate for itís weight). high octane beer is a big thing, but lambic/sour fans tend not to be the big audience for boozy/extreme beer.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
potbeerjob (1343) - Denver, Colorado, USA - OCT 17, 2010
THe kitchen. Bottled. Murky red sunrise. Aroma is sweet sour and just huge grape sour like big league chew. Flavor is all wine with a lot of cabernet flavor and also applesauce. Awesome


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