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RATINGS: 103   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.37/5   EST. CALORIES: 270   ABV: 9%
Brewed at Alvinne for ’t Alternatief. EERWAARDE PATER is een 9 VOL% donkerbruin op eikenhout gelagerd licht gebrande mout vineus, porto een stevig bier voor de komende winter. Bier zonder kleurstoffen, bewaarstoffen, smaakstoffen enz. puur natuur en zeer vol. Om meer stabiliteit te bekomen zijn alle gisten aangepast.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
77ships (8210) - Antwerpen, BELGIUM - SEP 21, 2015
330 ml. bottle sampled. BBF BBF 08/2016. GUSHER – HUGE GUSHER. Now my floor & table are all sticky and dirty! Yeah Alvinne…… enough has been said. Dark to murky brownish, head collapses almost instantly but not before it spills over everywhere,…. Nose is sour red fruits, vinous, sour oak, faint vinegar, Oud Bruin-like, sour red fruits & soda. Taste is rotting red fruits & leathery rotting tobacco, malts, not quite sour but dirty & a faintly almost sour, rotting red fruits, watery, caramel, milk chocolate, oak, old wet leaves, compost, rotting wet oak,… Watery, hugely messy body. Almost approximating a failed Oud Bruin, a real mess but acceptable if you enjoy the Oud Bruin style. Obv. this is everything but what it was supposed to be.

   AROMA 4/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 10/20
Flogiston (6) - NETHERLANDS - AUG 23, 2015 does not count
Geroosterd, citrus, kelder aroma, alcohol, bloemig Niet een bier welke ik nogmaals zou kopen.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
Ratman197 (13404) - Arvada, Colorado, USA - AUG 17, 2015
Bottle poured a clear reddish brown woth a lasting tan head. Aromas of tobacco, toffee, fruitiness and light yeast. Palate was light bodied and smooth. Flavors of toffee, tobacco, light fruitiness and light yeast with a smooth lingering toffee finish.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
ST247 (493) - Antwerp, BELGIUM - APR 5, 2015
Bottle @home. Pours dark red/brown with a light brown head. Aroma is sweet, ripe fruit, little caramel, toffee. Taste ripe fruit, bit alcoholic, very light caramel, roasted malt. Light bitterness, bitter and dry finish.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
JefVerstraete (2950) - Oosterzele, BELGIUM - JAN 16, 2015
Bottle @ Fiere Margriet, Leuven. Brown colour, beige foam. Aroma of caramel, dark fruit and brown sugar. Also spices. Medium sweet, bitter aftertaste. Ok beer.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
PriorL (3069) - Gent, BELGIUM - JAN 4, 2015
Bottle at home. APPEARANCE: brown beer, nice stable beige head, but extreme GUSHER... Alvinne made again, happy to hear though they found the problem behind this recurring event, and fixed it. NOSE: caramel, sweet, malts, molasses? TASTE: caramel, sweet, malts. Oké beer

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
kraddel (6368) - some beerplace, BELGIUM - OCT 27, 2014
Bottle at home Pours dark brown , big white head . Smell is very weird ... Green, but not at all in a hoppy manner, more like... earthy , leaves ,caramel, herbs ... Very complex and just weird . Taste is bit bitter, sweet, chocolate, bit metallic, earthy , caramel , malts, the herbal character is there, but way less than in the scent . Very , very complex beer, with the ideal carbonation . aftertaste is herbal earthy , soft and a tad sweet . No gusher, yet made by alvinne ( appatently different yeast according to the description . it IS possible !

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
shorlin (721) - St. John’s, Newfoundland, CANADA - SEP 23, 2014
Random pickup from a store in Milan, had no idea what it was. Medium brown, little head. Aroma is quite boozy, with chocolate, molasses, boozy dark fruit rum cake. Taste is pretty nice, very enjoyable sweetness with a slick finish. I thought it was great.

   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 20/20
corkyrory66 (1425) - BELGIUM - SEP 15, 2014
Bière heavy dark brown matured on oak, importée aux States par « Twelve percent » … cela ne s’improvise pas !! Mais elle ne fait quand même « que » 9 % abv au compteur... même s’il s’agit d’un « révérend père » (traduction du nom). Par contre elle est à ranger parmi les quadruple, et non simplement dans les « belgian strong ale » comme le fait ratebeer... Couleur brun châtain très foncé et opaque. Mousse beige très épaisse, avec des petits cratères en haut, puis crémeuse et stable à 8 mm, superbe. Arômes de bois de fût, pruneau, vin rouge en chai de maturation. Sublime. 1ère bouche soyeuse à veloutée à l’entrée en matière exceptionnelle, vineuse (dans le bon sens des grands crus), boisée, complexe avec des fruits noirs, du raisin et une pointe de porto. 2ème avec un peu de café très distingué sur les nuances vineuses, et une pointe de bois de rose. 3ème avec du bois, des fruits noirs, malt, levure. Tout y est. Arrière-bouche pleine, ample, vaste … que dis-je, prodigieuse. La longueur nous donne du bois exotique, du grand vin, du fût de chai de supérieure maison … Exceptionnelle longueur avec un charme inouï (à ne pas confondre avec inuit …). La levure est riche, intense, aux mille nuances. Superbe veine. L’alcool répond à son attente, il fait un admirable travail, avec une progression lente et infinie. La finale donne des nuances d’une finesse divine, comme les grandes tapisseries du Moyen-âge. CONCLUSION : suprême nectar qui anoblit la bière pour la porter aux confins des grands vignobles. Après ce genre de bière, vous ne devez jamais vous abaisser devant un dégustateur de vin. Egalité totale entre les deux breuvages. Exceptionnelle complexité de cette quadruple. Honneur soit accordé à ce révérend père !!!

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 11/20
Alengrin (4594) - BELGIUM - AUG 15, 2014
UPDATED: OCT 3, 2015 Abbey-style quadrupel since 2008, re-rating from a bottle now (obtained from Wijnegemse Drankenhal). Creamy and moussy, yellowish pale beige head, hazy reddish bronze burgundy colour. Aroma of candied dates, dry autumn leaves, melting candi sugar, hazelnut paste, pear brandy, wet straw, dried reeds, caramel, very old cocoa powder, nutmeg, some faint clove- and at times even varnish-like phenols. Sweetish taste, not cloying, medlar, overripe pear and a sourish tinge of gooseberries; soft carbo, supple and smooth mouthfeel; caramelly, very (dark) bready maltiness with a sourish edge - almost ’versnijbier’-like - and even turning into diluted coffee grounds in a further stage, increasingly drying towards the end due to - obviously unintended - bacterial lactic sourishness as well as - probably more intended - roasted bitterness nevertheless staying subtle, as in a typical Belgian Christmas beer. On top of this basis, there is a clearly uncontrolled play of spicy yeastiness, phenolic and ending a bit wry along with deep, earthy and lightly spicy hops as well as a dash of warming, but unrefined, rhum-like alcohol. The intentions of Alternatief and Piet Salomez are pure, but why come up with this mediocrity instead of honouring a style which has spawned a few of the finest beers in the world? This beer is drinkable, but there is no balance. It also pains me a bit that apparently this has not improved one bit compared with the original 2008 version. Downer.

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