5000 (6300) - Hardened Liver, Washington, USA - APR 6, 2005
3.2 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 6/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 13/20
Bottle pours a dark muddy caramel, large off-white frothy head, visible sediment sits stationary, soft carbonation, with quite attractive lacing.   For a five year old beer, it certainly looks good.   Unfortunately the nose isn’t as nice, overcooked vegetable and light butterscotch on the nose.   Certainly not what I expected.   If there was any hop presense, it is all gone now.   As it warms the alcohol becomes more noticable.   Flavor of diactyl and oddly enough, Tootsie Rolls!!!   Guessing this beer has already peaked.   Wow, damn Tootsie Rolls.   Body and mouthfeel are fairly medium, but I can see where it mighta been mighty fine back in the day.   Finishes with very soft caramel/toffee, but with that fake Tootsie Roll flavor lingering... blech.   Thanks goes out to jtw for giving me the opportunity to try this one!
tiggmtl (4548) - Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA - APR 1, 2005
2.6 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 2/5 TASTE 5/10 PALATE 2/5 OVERALL 11/20
Vinous aroma - cider vinegar and cardboard. Opaque orange-tan with plenty of yeast in suspension and shy white head that recedes to ring. Strong meaty, vinegary flavour with cardboard-like oxidation. Prickly carbonation. Very dry. Sadly this one seems to have been aged longer than it should have been. Tulip glass, just above fridge temp. Bottle sampled with ClarkVV, MartinT, muzzlehatch and Rastacouere.
muzzlehatch (4424) - Burlington, Vermont, USA - MAR 31, 2005
3.3 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 13/20
New England Road Trip Easter ’05 with MartinT, tiggmtl and Rastacouere, beer #40. Sampled in our motel room, joined by the locquacious and sagacious ClarkVV. 12 oz bottle, 2000, provided by munificent Clark. Thick, yeasty amber-brown with huge floaty chunks...cider-vinegary nose with dry citric bits...sour, vinous body, apples and clay, some interesting brown sugar and maple separated out...too old or not stored that well, but still somewhat interesting.
redmosquito (172) - Sterling Heights, Michigan, USA - MAR 31, 2005
3.8 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
A special thanks to Walleye Jim for giving me this one of a kind bottle of beer. This beer poured a dark amber with a brown hue and no reddish tint at all, there was a slight haze, as I dumped some of the chunky yeast in from the bottom. The head was thin and whitish, but quickly disappeared. The aroma was all nutty malt, like roasted pistachios, with a wine like oak aroma floating around in the background. As it warmed the aroma changed toasted grains and slight caramel. The flavor is indeed mild, again malt first with a little balancing hop bitterness. The flavor is of caramel and Munich malt, and a slight yeast finish. The beer is extremely smooth, not even seeming like a 7.5% beer. I am very impressed at how well this beer has aged considering it is only 7.5%. Still I would have liked to try it a few years back when it was a little less "mature."
footbalm (1219) - Western Minneapolis Suburbs, Minnesota, USA - MAR 29, 2005
3.1 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 6/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 12/20
In trade with Styles.Thanks Chris. Murky like spring flood river water.Some fruitiness and sweet malts.It is a litle old for the style but I still am very happy to taste this.Acidic smell almost but still has a mild flavor of caramel apples.A little like apple vinegar at this point.
Rastacouere (6131) - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA - MAR 29, 2005
2.9 AROMA 5/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 5/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 12/20
5 yr old bottle. This particular bottle has not held up very well. Bottle-conditioned, it pours a cloudy amber, topped by a filmy off-white head, lasting. Aroma is passed its prime to say the least. It proposes sausages and tart apples notes in a crusty and sauerkraut like background. Sharply vinegary flavour profile, earthy, cookie-ish and mildly alcoholic. Light bodied has certainly lost some of its glory. Thanks for the opportunity Clark.
goldtwins (4320) - Nesconset, New York, USA - MAR 23, 2005
3.6 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 15/20
Big thanks to JTW for the bottle. Pours a golden copper with a very thin white head. Aroma was sweet and tart with peaches and alcohol. Flavor was tart, sweet, and fruity. Some pineapple, caramel, and a lightly smokey malt underneath. Sweet and sour finish with some noticable alcohol, which surprised me since this isn’t a giant beer. There was also a short bitterness within the sweet finish.
CaptainCougar (7132) - Columbia, Maryland, USA - MAR 22, 2005
3.5 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 14/20
Pours a hazy copper bronze with a thin off-white, lightly lacing head. Has a rich dark malty caramel aroma with some butterscotch and a touch of lemony citrus. Starts lightly sweet with a hint of honey turning more tart, dry and citric with a warming finish. Has a surprising amount of carbonation for its age. Nice subtle complexity, but this is probably past its prime with the added sourness. Thanks to goldtwins for sharing!
ClarkVV (3892) - Allston, Massachusetts, USA - MAR 21, 2005
3.7 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
UPDATED: AUG 21, 2007 2000 bottle sampled thanks to Walleye, 3/19/05 at Kuhnhenn. Thick looking, amber colored beer, tons of protein and yeast have fallen out of suspension at this point. Still some head to it, though it is rather fleeting. Smells of sharp, alchol infused honey and citrus, a bit of light biscuits and maple. The strength of the aroma is surprising after this long. Bret Kuhnhenn says it smells like boiled cabbage, and while there may be a touch of veggies, I think it’s probably just old hops and oxidation creating that effect. Strong, syrupy body is only held at bay after 5 years of aging. Alcohol notes, a touch of sherry and just pure barley grain flavor, reminds me a little of the lightly syrupy 2003 Old Horizontal. Finish gets a little bit stale/astringent and dries out quite a bit. More sampling of this one is in order for sure. The body on this must have been spectacularly full when this was fresh.
Rerate Tried a bottle which proved to be cidery, loose and slight veggie-like. Not much good stuff in this one. Hopefully the rest of my bottles are ok. . .
Brad (364) - Berkley, Michigan, USA - MAR 21, 2005
4.2 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
UPDATED: JUN 1, 2005 Thank you to the kind people who met us at Kuhnhenn for sharing a bottle of this wonderful hard to find beer. Amber on the pour with a white medium sized lasting head. Beautifully unfiltered with a heavy sediment presence. Aromas of sweet caramel and citrusy fruits. Flavors of caramel malt with nicely balance hops.