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RATINGS: 297   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.


3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
b3shine (5452) - Indiana, USA - APR 26, 2013
Bottle to snifter (shared with the Mrs.; thanks burg326). Looks good; a dark brownish-black with beige lacing. Smells solid; chocolate malt, hops, cedar, and honey. Tastes like it smells with a nice, smooth mouthfeel. Good stuff.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
pentaz (1240) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - MAR 8, 2013
Bottle. Pours near black with almost no head. Aroma is roasted malt,licorice, grass, molasses, pine,citrus, wood, lime, bread, soy. Taste medium sweet, medium+ bitter and salty. Body is medium, texture is oily, carbonation is average. Finishes alcoholic and astringent.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
SlackerMads (1613) - Greater London, ENGLAND - MAR 8, 2013
Bottle. Dark brown with a minimal light brown head that leaves a bit of lacing. Aroma is chocolate, citrus, bready, honey, light coffee, roasted malt, bark, caramel. Taste is medium sweet and medium+ bitter. Medium body, oily texture, soft carbonation. Light roast and caramel with a light alcohol burn in the finish.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Bov (9492) - Bienne, SWITZERLAND - DEC 13, 2012
from Erzboerschof - black beer with no head retention; the nose is woody and piney; aroma of black chocolate and honey; pretty roasted; full-bodied and very tasty; some astringency, hugely bitter, pretty dry and long hoppy, chocolatey and woody finish - huge stuff !

3.3
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
jcartamdg (1987) - Spring Hill, Florida, USA - DEC 4, 2012
pours dark black with a off white head. Aroma of bitter hops, alcohol and roasted malt. Taste follows, quite boozy, hops are there so i the roast but the booze takes over. Either is much better

4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
mcmd (314) - Louisville, Kentucky, USA - DEC 3, 2012
pours black with thin mocha head. aroma of hops, woods, chocolate. Taste is chocolate, espresso, honey, cedar, hops bitter in finsh

3.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
alobar (2778) - Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA - OCT 10, 2012
Pours a dark black color with a creamy tan head. Aroma of roasted malt, chocolate, wood, and hops. Oily finish with chocolate, roasted malt, honey flavor with a slight hop bite. Great beer!

4.6
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
jpgrego (2) - Hamilton, Michigan, USA - SEP 25, 2012 does not count
Tannin, deep raisin, bitter, mossy, bit of an edge, moist soil, burnt sugar, molasses. I really wanted a cigar with this.

3.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
kermis (5065) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - SEP 3, 2012
Bottle shared at Delirium Hoppy Loft, side by side with Either. Pours black with a medium thick tan head. Aroma of chocolate, honey and roasted malt. Flavour is heavy sweet and moderate to heavy bitter. Thick oily mouthfeel, but not quite as thick as the Either. Full bodied with soft carbonation. An excellent beer in its own right, but slightly toned down compared to the Either.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 15/20
Aniela (2313) - Göteborg, SWEDEN - AUG 18, 2012
Bottle at CCB Day, Sätila 2012-07-07. Black beer with a small brown head. Dried dark fruits, malty aroma and flavour. Nice beer :-)


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