greencatfish (18) - Pennsylvania, USA - NOV 19, 2010
3.5 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 6/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 15/20
Ok so Iím going to rate this about a 3.5 but here is the thing. For a black IPA this beer is very good. But I had this at the same time as the Either and to be honest the hops really donít need to be there. The Either is by far a better beer the hops just seem to bleed out the nice complex flavors of the Either.
Ok first take is ton of roasted malt with a nice clean pine hop finish. The honey is kind of lost in the mix between the malt and hops and I got little no wood flavor out of this. Very smooth and drinkable for 11%. If you at a bar that has both Either and OR and you only have 10.00 get the Either but they are both great beers. WTG CCB
j12601 (6403) - Poughkeepsie, New York, USA - NOV 18, 2010
4 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 16/20
On tap at the Blind Tiger during their Cigar City event. Pours a deep black with a thin tan head. Looks nearly identical to the Either, and a couple of points Iíd see people get both and then get all confused as to which one they had. Similar aromas to the Either, but more coffee notes with a bigger amount of spicy raw hops. Sweet roast, but again the big spiciness of the hops cuts right through. Long char, roast and a great quinine note on the finish. Both amazing, but definitely distinct. I just realized that I had meant to at some point blend the two together and forgot. Still delicious.
mlunger12 (645) - Orlando, Florida, USA - NOV 18, 2010
3.8 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
I didnít like this one quite as well at the Either. A little less hop and malt character to me, interesting to see how different they are.
Tmoney99 (9610) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - NOV 18, 2010
3.8 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
Draft at CC. Poured black color with an average frothy brown head that lasted and produced good lacing. Moderate to heavy toasted malt, dark honey, wood and alcohol aroma. Medium to full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Moderate to heavy toasted honey sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish of moderate to long duration. This is a good but not a standout beer.
changeup45 (1669) - Mount Dora, Florida, USA - NOV 17, 2010
3.7 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 15/20
Bottle from Knightly. Sampled the same night as the Either. The appearance is the same; pours almost black with a thin mocha head. The aroma shows cedar and roasted malt along with leafy hops, damp wood, and subtle chocolate. Maybe Iím just looking for it more but the cedar is more prominent in the nose than the Either but perhaps not as complex. The flavor really shows sharp cedar and leafy hops. Overall a bit green. Strong toasted grains mix in with some chocolate but the chocolate seems overpowered by the sharper flavors. Iím not really getting much, if any, citrus here. Dry, and long-lasting bitterness in the finish with plenty of lingering cedar notes. The Either and Or are very similar for sure, but I found this one to be a bit sharper with the cedar and hops and I guess rougher around the edges. Somewhat gritty. Both are very good but I thought the Either was the better drink.
Chalsk (966) - North Caldwell, New Jersey, USA - NOV 17, 2010
4.2 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
On tap at Blind Tiger with Joey Redner. Did the Either, Or side by side. Pours a black caramel colored head. Has an aroma of citrus and caramel. Roasty citrus taste with more roast than the Either. A nice creamy mouthfeel. Tasty brew.
50belair (1718) - Florida, USA - NOV 17, 2010
4 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
Bottle. Let me begin by saying this strikingly similar to the either. That being I actually preferred the Either. This version has more hop and cedar flavors...
italianjohn (2149) - Penndel, Pennsylvania, USA - NOV 16, 2010
3.6 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 3/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
Black pour lots of tan creamy head aroma is very strong of citrusy and piney hops, honey and some roasted malt .... creamy mouthfeel ... resiny citrusy and piney hop taste with hints of honey, toasted cedar, roasted and sweet malts ... a dry bitter hop finish and no trace of the 11.2% at all .... not very balanced mostly just a citrusy/piney hop bomb hiding the abv but the honey is lightly evident and it has a roasted hint ... an expensive12ozer at $10
gkost (1703) - Tampa, Florida, USA - NOV 14, 2010
3.9 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 5/5 OVERALL 14/20
Pours black with a thin tan head. Nose is big hops, citrus, pine, roast, smoke, hints of sweet grains. Flavor is giant bitter hop, roasted grain, pine. This one is way more bitter and boozier tasting than the "either." The hops are not as balanced. Still a crazy beer.
Beerlando (3342) - Orlando, Florida, USA - NOV 12, 2010
3.7 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 16/20
Draft at Redlight Redlight. I had the "Either" and the "Or" side by side, and will combine my rating for comparison purposes. The score for this entry is the "Or" version.
Or. This is the Denmark/Vermont version with the Pilsner malt base and bittering hop resin. The body is basically pitch black, sporting a moderately sized, smooth, cappuccino colored head that settles fairly quickly to a thin surface film. Tall feathers of sticky lace cling hard to the glass. Aromas are intensely hoppy and green, loaded with leafy resins and alpha acids. Orange pith lends a bold citrus hop contingent, and spicy cedar serves as a nice compliment to this aspect. In the malt base, dry chocolate and toasted caramel are accompanied by notes of toasted bread crust. Flavors again kick off with the strikingly bitter, green, resinous hops and the peppery cedar, which prove dominant over the underlying dry, dark, bittersweet cocoa. Caramel and dry chocolate roast come across almost ashy at points, intensifying the bitterness of the hops. The palate, as expected for an 11% beer of this nature, is quite weighty, sporting smooth, even-keeled carbonation and sticky, tacky finish. Overall, I liked it quite a bit. Itís certainly the more aggressive and unbalanced of the two. "Or" score: 7/4/7/3/16 = 3.7
Either. This is the Florida version with the pale malt base and all pellet hops. Also pouring pitch black, the body props up a moderate, spongy, mocha colored head that lasts for a good long while. Sticky, feathered bands and flares of lacing coat the glass well. The overall appearance rivals just about any imperial stout. Speaking of which, the nose is far more balanced and stout-like than the Or version, as rich chocolate roast does well to assuage softer citrus and grassy hops. Cedar is less prominent (you actually have to search for it), and there are deeper nuances of tobacco and dark fruit. Flavors follow suit, showing a rich, roasty chocolate malt base with notes of stewed figs and maybe even some black strap molasses. Grassy hops are still there en masse, but they are far more rounded and subtle. The same can be said for the cedar, which lends just a bit of soft spice throughout. Mocha really comes through on the finish. On the palate, the roundness of the huge malt contingent is evident as the hefty body rolls and glides over the tongue. Carbonation is spot on, which is to say softly persistent. The finish is sticky and somewhat cloying, but not overtly so. Overall, I found this to be much more approachable and well rounded. Both are very good beers, but this one would be my top choice. "Either" score: 8/5/8/3/16 = 4.0