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RATINGS: 295   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.


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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
fonefan (33333) - VestJylland, DENMARK - APR 3, 2011

Bottle 12fl.oz. @ DOE Tasting, Fox & Hounds, Holstebro.

Clear dark brown color with a average to large, creamy to frothy, good lacing, mostly lastingg, light beige head. Aroma is moderate to heavy malty, roasted, caramel, honey, moderate hoppy, grapefruit, citrus. Flavor is moderate to heavy sweet and bitter with a long duration, wood. Body is medium, texture is oily, carbonation is soft. [20110329]

4.6
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 18/20
yespr (29687) - Copenhagen O, DENMARK - MAR 6, 2011
33 cL bottle at ACBF2011. Pours dark brown to black with a small tan head. Spiced, dark roasted and dense malty aroma. Breadish. Smooth, sweet, roasted breadish and dark malty. Light hops fruity and rather bitter and dry roasted. Ends dry.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Ungstrup (28448) - Citizen of the universe, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
Bottled. A pitch black beer with a brown head. The aroma has notes of roasted malt, alcohol, and wood. The flavor is sweet with notes of alcohol, roasted malt, and soy sauce, leading to a very bitter finish. Thanks pinball for sharing.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Papsoe (25094) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
Botle 33 cl. Courtesy of Pinball. Pours pitch black with a small beige head. Hard roast in the nose but the fresh citrusy hops dominate. Medium body, hard roast malt, some ashes and dusty hops. Heavy roast in the finish - AND bitter hops. 230311

3.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
oh6gdx (20004) - Vasa, FINLAND - DEC 26, 2011
Bottled@Craft Beer Co, London, during my July-August visit. Black colour, brown mediumsized head that leaves some lace. Aroma is spices, some honeylike sweetness, mild liquorice as well as some slight berrylike notes. Flavour is rather similar with mild coffee and chocolate as well. Long honeyish sweet dark malty finish. This one was really pleasant.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
joergen (19647) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - FEB 5, 2011
Bottle at Sune. Black coloured with a small beige head. Sweet and roasted aroma of caramel, liquorice, grass and hops. Sweet and roasted flavour of caramel, liquorice, hops, grass and pine needles with notes of alcohol. Hoppy and warming alcoholic finish.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
anders37 (15535) - Malmö, SWEDEN - MAY 17, 2011
Bottle. Pours a black color with a small tan head. Has a roasted malty hoppy aroma with hints of licorice. Roasted malty hoppy bitter flavor with hints of licorice. Has a roasted malty hoppy bitter chocolate and licorice finish.

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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
saxo (13455) - Højbjerg, Aarhus, DENMARK - MAR 18, 2011
Bottle from Skjold Burne. Medium head with medium duration. Color is black. Aroma and taste are coffee, chocolate, hops, flowers and licorice. Great beer.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Dedollewaitor (13390) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Bottle @ Odense Tasting, Feb. 2011. Pours black with a creamy beige head. Nose is grapefruit, toffee and caramel. Smooth. Dry and bitter flavor. Cedar and grapefruit. Very dry and bitter hoppy end.

3.6
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
madmitch76 (13360) - , Essex, ENGLAND - MAR 27, 2011
4th March 2011
Bottle at ACBF. Opaque black beer, small tan head. Fresh dark malt nose. Smooth semi dry palate. Fruit underneath with dark malt and some medicinal bitterness on top. Unusual and good. Lingering herby-bitter aftertaste.


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