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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
harrisoni (15792) - Ashford, Kent, ENGLAND - MAR 15, 2011
Bottle at ACBF ’11. Not as good as the Either. Very deep brown colour, smoky aroma, bit medicinal. Tasty dark roasted malts. Coffee but medicinal throughout.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
yngwie (15759) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - APR 20, 2011
Bottle, 12oz, thx to Meilby. A next to pitch black beer, topped by a dense, tan head of moderate size. The aroma is on the hoppy side, like sticking your head into a bag of American C-hops. Pine cones, resins and lots of citrus. There’s hints of roasted malts and a faint note of licorice too. The flavor is quite alcoholic, in a nice way, with roasted malts in the back and lots of hops up front. A good bitterness too. Full-bodied and warming, almost sticky. Lasting finish with alcohol, roasted malts and loads of hops. A big one, a wonderful one. 110420

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
saxo (15393) - Højbjerg, Aarhus, DENMARK - MAR 18, 2011
Bottle from Skjold Burne. Medium head with medium duration. Color is black. Aroma and taste are coffee, chocolate, hops, flowers and licorice. Great beer.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
rlgk (15303) - Göteborg, SWEDEN - JUL 10, 2011
Bottle, thanks to Nisse666. Black beer, beige head. Hoppy earthy aroma, rather dry and a bit spicy. Hoppy earthy flavor with perfume and metal.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Leighton (15280) - London, Greater London, ENGLAND - FEB 26, 2014
Bottle shared at Ma Che in Rome. Pours black-brown with a foamy tan head. Burnt cedar wood on the nose with darkened grapes as well. Medium sweet flavor with lightly jammy dark fruits, light chocolate, grape jelly, mellow dry cedar wood. Medium bodied with fine, creamy carbonation. Light warmth to finish with a bit of bitter baking cocoa, earth, ripe and sweet berries. Lovely. Great depth of character.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Dedollewaitor (14915) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Bottle @ Odense Tasting, Feb. 2011. Pours black with a creamy beige head. Nose is grapefruit, toffee and caramel. Smooth. Dry and bitter flavor. Cedar and grapefruit. Very dry and bitter hoppy end.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Rasmus40 (14810) - Beder, Aarhus, DENMARK - MAR 17, 2011
Black with a light brown head. Aroma is raosted malt, coffee and hoppy - pine and grapefruit. Flavor is very sweet and very bitter. Finish is very bitter with warming alcohol. Not thick and creamy like Either, but still great. 160311

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Theis (14655) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - FEB 4, 2011
Bottle at Sune’s. Pitch black - brown head. Roasted malty. Honey sweetness. Fruity. High bitterness. Piney. Grassy. Fruity. Light woody. Coffee. Peppery. Rubbery. Lovely bitterness.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Theydon_Bois (14283) - Tourist Town (West), Berkshire, ENGLAND - JUN 24, 2013
Bottle, Theydon Bois Roma Pre-Nuptuals Tasting at Ma Che, 22/06/13. Thanks to Leighton for hunting down a 2nd Black IPA rate in Roma! Dark black with a frothy tan head. Nose is liqourice, aniseed, bitter roast, dark chocolate, hoppy backnotes. Taste comprises dark malts, good dose of roast, light pine bite, touch of bitter hops, aniseed, licqourice, light chocolate. Full bodied, soft carbonation, light booze in the finish. Decent, more of a black IPA than Either in my book but both decent beers and well made with little thought given to the fact your’e supping a double digit ABV beer!

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
brokensail (14038) - San Leandro, California, USA - MAY 31, 2011
A: The beer pours a very dark brown color with a thin layer of off-white/tan foam. S: Fairly heavy on the roast and chocolate notes with a moderate licorice quality. Some mild booze is also in there. A solid hop presence with a nice citrus (grapefruit) and pine note. T: Grapefruit and other citrus hops are prominent up front. A mild pineapple flavor as well as some grass and a hint of pine round out the hop profile. Fairly roasty with a nice hint of licorice. M: Medium to full in body with a medium level of carbonation. O: I was expecting this to be pretty harsh at 11%, but really nice and easy to drink.

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