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RATINGS: 295   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.


3.4
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
cgarvieuk (13165) - Edinburgh, SCOTLAND - MAY 7, 2011
bottle at home ... dark black .... soft sweet roast ... little smoke hop ... soft rich fruity nose ... hoppier tha the either .. little more bitter ... little dryier ... bitter dark chocolate.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Theis (12753) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - FEB 4, 2011
Bottle at Sune’s. Pitch black - brown head. Roasted malty. Honey sweetness. Fruity. High bitterness. Piney. Grassy. Fruity. Light woody. Coffee. Peppery. Rubbery. Lovely bitterness.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
harrisoni (12652) - Ashford, Kent, ENGLAND - MAR 15, 2011
Bottle at ACBF ’11. Not as good as the Either. Very deep brown colour, smoky aroma, bit medicinal. Tasty dark roasted malts. Coffee but medicinal throughout.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
yngwie (12612) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - APR 20, 2011
Bottle, 12oz, thx to Meilby. A next to pitch black beer, topped by a dense, tan head of moderate size. The aroma is on the hoppy side, like sticking your head into a bag of American C-hops. Pine cones, resins and lots of citrus. There’s hints of roasted malts and a faint note of licorice too. The flavor is quite alcoholic, in a nice way, with roasted malts in the back and lots of hops up front. A good bitterness too. Full-bodied and warming, almost sticky. Lasting finish with alcohol, roasted malts and loads of hops. A big one, a wonderful one. 110420

3.3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
argo0 (11181) - Washington DC, USA - MAR 20, 2011
Bottle. Minimal tan head atop black body with brown edge. Aroma is moderately sweet, coffee, caramel, chocolate, some orange. Taste is moderately sweet, caramel, bittersweet chocolate, plum/raisin, orange/grapefruit. Sticky medium-full body, low carbonation, somewhat smooth.

4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jcwattsrugger (11004) - Florida and, New Jersey, USA - NOV 21, 2010
on tap-pours a brown head that laces with black color. Aroma is sweet pine, 2nd dark malt. Taste is sweet pine hops, cedar, 2nd dark malt-some molasses (&honey). Medium/full body.

4.1
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Christian (10778) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Black with a small but lasting tan head. Aroma of licoriice and citrus, lots of orange peel, with some dark chocolate. The aroma is complex and very inviting. Sweet flavour with lots of toffee, some licorice and a hint of roasted flavour. Lots of fruity hops, along with hop bitterness and a tannic cedar bitterness

4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
thewolf (10770) - Kolding, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle, bought @ Skjold Burne, Aarhus.
All black with a large, creamy, light-brown head. Good duration and nice lacings. Aroma is lovely, good wood with piney and fruity hops. Mild vinious, some grapefruit, apricot, honey, plant sap. Medium carbonation, lovely light and creamy mouthfeel. Lovely balanced flavour, good liqourice, mild vinious, some coffee and bitter dark chocolate. Good hops bite, lots of pine, plant sap and grapefruit. Lovely beer.

3.9
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Pinball (10606) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
pitch dark, small brown head. roasted malts, winey note.wood. nice slighlty fruity aroma. flavor is wood, roasted malts, loads of hops to balance. vineous touch.

3.7
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
bhensonb (10345) - Woodland, California, USA - MAR 18, 2014
Bottle shared by oRos. Pours dark brown with a tan head. Aroma is a bit of pine, with chocolate and dark malt. Med body. Flavor is lightly minty chocolate with dark malt.


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