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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.


4.1
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Christian (11132) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Black with a small but lasting tan head. Aroma of licoriice and citrus, lots of orange peel, with some dark chocolate. The aroma is complex and very inviting. Sweet flavour with lots of toffee, some licorice and a hint of roasted flavour. Lots of fruity hops, along with hop bitterness and a tannic cedar bitterness

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Leighton (11123) - London, Greater London, ENGLAND - FEB 26, 2014
Bottle shared at Ma Che in Rome. Pours black-brown with a foamy tan head. Burnt cedar wood on the nose with darkened grapes as well. Medium sweet flavor with lightly jammy dark fruits, light chocolate, grape jelly, mellow dry cedar wood. Medium bodied with fine, creamy carbonation. Light warmth to finish with a bit of bitter baking cocoa, earth, ripe and sweet berries. Lovely. Great depth of character.

4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jcwattsrugger (11086) - Florida and, New Jersey, USA - NOV 21, 2010
on tap-pours a brown head that laces with black color. Aroma is sweet pine, 2nd dark malt. Taste is sweet pine hops, cedar, 2nd dark malt-some molasses (&honey). Medium/full body.

3.6
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
brokensail (11008) - Orange County, California, USA - MAY 31, 2011
A: The beer pours a very dark brown color with a thin layer of off-white/tan foam. S: Fairly heavy on the roast and chocolate notes with a moderate licorice quality. Some mild booze is also in there. A solid hop presence with a nice citrus (grapefruit) and pine note. T: Grapefruit and other citrus hops are prominent up front. A mild pineapple flavor as well as some grass and a hint of pine round out the hop profile. Fairly roasty with a nice hint of licorice. M: Medium to full in body with a medium level of carbonation. O: I was expecting this to be pretty harsh at 11%, but really nice and easy to drink.

3.9
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Pinball (10856) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
pitch dark, small brown head. roasted malts, winey note.wood. nice slighlty fruity aroma. flavor is wood, roasted malts, loads of hops to balance. vineous touch.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
rlgk (10849) - Göteborg/Jönköping, SWEDEN - JUL 10, 2011
Bottle, thanks to Nisse666. Black beer, beige head. Hoppy earthy aroma, rather dry and a bit spicy. Hoppy earthy flavor with perfume and metal.

3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Tmoney99 (10717) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - NOV 18, 2010
Draft at CC. Poured black color with an average frothy brown head that lasted and produced good lacing. Moderate to heavy toasted malt, dark honey, wood and alcohol aroma. Medium to full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Moderate to heavy toasted honey sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish of moderate to long duration. This is a good but not a standout beer.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
gunnfryd (10672) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - JUN 6, 2011
Bottle. Black colour with a tan head. Aroma is roasted, smoked malt, coffee, alcohol, grapefruit. Flavour is roasted smoked malt, coffee, hop, grapefruit, alcohol. Full bodied nice beer.

3.7
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
HenrikSoegaard (10556) - Randers, DENMARK - FEB 14, 2011
Bottle. Creamy lightbrown good mostly lasting head. Balck colour. Moderate malty and hoppy aroma. Average moderate bitter flavor. Some chocolate notes. Slightly swetrer than either. Creamy palate.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
bierkoning (10265) - La Tropica, NETHERLANDS - FEB 21, 2011
Bottle Almost black and opague. Malt and especially honey in the aroma. Malty sweet flavor with roast, hints of ash, honey and woody notes. Alcoholic. Roasty, honeyish aftertaste with loads of hops and dried red fruit.


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