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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
chrisv10 (13485) - DENMARK - MAR 10, 2011
Bottle. Black with small light brown head. Flavour is roasted malts, chocolate, coffee, honey, perfume, bitter and hops.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
gunnfryd (13345) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - JUN 6, 2011
Bottle. Black colour with a tan head. Aroma is roasted, smoked malt, coffee, alcohol, grapefruit. Flavour is roasted smoked malt, coffee, hop, grapefruit, alcohol. Full bodied nice beer.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
bhensonb (12969) - Woodland, California, USA - MAR 18, 2014
Bottle shared by oRos. Pours dark brown with a tan head. Aroma is a bit of pine, with chocolate and dark malt. Med body. Flavor is lightly minty chocolate with dark malt.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
argo0 (12515) - Washington DC, USA - MAR 20, 2011
Bottle. Minimal tan head atop black body with brown edge. Aroma is moderately sweet, coffee, caramel, chocolate, some orange. Taste is moderately sweet, caramel, bittersweet chocolate, plum/raisin, orange/grapefruit. Sticky medium-full body, low carbonation, somewhat smooth.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Tmoney99 (12420) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - NOV 18, 2010
Draft at CC. Poured black color with an average frothy brown head that lasted and produced good lacing. Moderate to heavy toasted malt, dark honey, wood and alcohol aroma. Medium to full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Moderate to heavy toasted honey sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish of moderate to long duration. This is a good but not a standout beer.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
HenrikSoegaard (12054) - Randers, DENMARK - FEB 14, 2011
Bottle. Creamy lightbrown good mostly lasting head. Balck colour. Moderate malty and hoppy aroma. Average moderate bitter flavor. Some chocolate notes. Slightly swetrer than either. Creamy palate.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Christian (11983) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Black with a small but lasting tan head. Aroma of licoriice and citrus, lots of orange peel, with some dark chocolate. The aroma is complex and very inviting. Sweet flavour with lots of toffee, some licorice and a hint of roasted flavour. Lots of fruity hops, along with hop bitterness and a tannic cedar bitterness

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
jtclockwork (11810) - , New Jersey, USA - DEC 2, 2010
Bottle thanks to Jcwattsrugger. Pours black with tan head. Nose and taste of cedar, honey, roasted chocolate malts, light vanilla and hops. The cedar really dominates the nose and taste.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
Ratman197 (11790) - Arvada, Colorado, USA - JUN 1, 2011
Bottle courtesy of Doodler poured a clear dark brown with a small lingering brown head. Aromas of roastiness, cocoa, earthinesslight cedar, light honey and light dried fruit. Palate was medium bodied and smooth. Flavors of roastiness, bitter chocolate, cedar and light honey with a smooth lingering roasty finish.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Pinball (11706) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
pitch dark, small brown head. roasted malts, winey note.wood. nice slighlty fruity aroma. flavor is wood, roasted malts, loads of hops to balance. vineous touch.

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