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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jcwattsrugger (11670) - Florida and, New Jersey, USA - NOV 21, 2010
on tap-pours a brown head that laces with black color. Aroma is sweet pine, 2nd dark malt. Taste is sweet pine hops, cedar, 2nd dark malt-some molasses (&honey). Medium/full body.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
thewolf (11647) - Kolding, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle, bought @ Skjold Burne, Aarhus.
All black with a large, creamy, light-brown head. Good duration and nice lacings. Aroma is lovely, good wood with piney and fruity hops. Mild vinious, some grapefruit, apricot, honey, plant sap. Medium carbonation, lovely light and creamy mouthfeel. Lovely balanced flavour, good liqourice, mild vinious, some coffee and bitter dark chocolate. Good hops bite, lots of pine, plant sap and grapefruit. Lovely beer.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
bierkoning (11526) - La Tropica, NETHERLANDS - FEB 21, 2011
Bottle Almost black and opague. Malt and especially honey in the aroma. Malty sweet flavor with roast, hints of ash, honey and woody notes. Alcoholic. Roasty, honeyish aftertaste with loads of hops and dried red fruit.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Benzai (11359) - Oirschot, THE NETHERLANDS, NETHERLANDS - JUN 29, 2011
Bottle at Joes, thanks for sharing. Another taste at Alvinne CBF 2011. Pitch black opaque color. Smell is ok, taste nice light bitter. Alcohol very well hidden, very nice body and carbo.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
madsberg (11067) - Søborg, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle at ACBF 2011. Dark brown coloured. LIght brown head. Herbs, caramel, light liqourice, roast, flowers, light spice and chocolate in the aroma. Flavou rof cocoa, coffee, caramel, vague smoke, some herbs and flowers. Very nice and smooth. Medium to full bodied. Has a hefty bitter roasted end. Very nice.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Bov (10926) - Bienne, SWITZERLAND - DEC 13, 2012
from Erzboerschof - black beer with no head retention; the nose is woody and piney; aroma of black chocolate and honey; pretty roasted; full-bodied and very tasty; some astringency, hugely bitter, pretty dry and long hoppy, chocolatey and woody finish - huge stuff !

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
mcberko (10568) - Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA - JUL 30, 2011
12 oz. bottle, sent from Glouglouburp (thanks Dany) split with Matts_Property, pours black with a slight reddish tinge and small ring of tan head. Aroma is balanced between roasted malts, honey and cedar, with the cedar becoming more pronounced the more you smell. Flavour is similarly so, with cedar, honey, slightly burnt roasted malts and wood all prevalent - the cedar and burnt / wood notes lingering. Again, not a huge fan of the cedar though it’s not as strong as in Either, and this is beautifully crafted nonetheless. More well-rounded than Either and I enjoyed it slightly more.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
daknole (10350) - Scottsdale, Arizona, USA - DEC 9, 2010
Black pour, creamy tan head. Hops up front in the aroma with toasted malt, pumpernickel bread, a little tar and some cane syrup. Flavor is sweet up front, hoppy, light smoke, grade b maple syrup, molasses. This is a world class black IPA. YES!

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
hopdog (10266) - Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 11, 2010
12oz bottle. Poured a dark black color with a very small sized off white head. Aromas of roast, breadiness, chocolate, some woodiness, and earthy. Tastes of roast, chocolate, earthy, floral, honey sweetness, and woodiness.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
hopscotch (10265) - Vero Beach, Florida, USA - NOV 22, 2010
UPDATED: NOV 23, 2010 Bottle… Coal black ale with a mid-sized, creamy, khaki head. Good retention. The nose offers lots of deeply roasted malt, dark chocolate, leather and singed pine needles with an acrid splash of bong water. Full-bodied with an oily mouthfeel and tingly carbonation. Black malt sweetness intertwines nicely with citrusy, grassy, piney hop bitterness. The high ABV is cloaked nicely. Burnt, grassy, hempen finish.

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