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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Christian (12955) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Black with a small but lasting tan head. Aroma of licoriice and citrus, lots of orange peel, with some dark chocolate. The aroma is complex and very inviting. Sweet flavour with lots of toffee, some licorice and a hint of roasted flavour. Lots of fruity hops, along with hop bitterness and a tannic cedar bitterness

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
bierkoning (12581) - La Tropica, NETHERLANDS - FEB 21, 2011
Bottle Almost black and opague. Malt and especially honey in the aroma. Malty sweet flavor with roast, hints of ash, honey and woody notes. Alcoholic. Roasty, honeyish aftertaste with loads of hops and dried red fruit.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jcwattsrugger (12198) - Florida and, New Jersey, USA - NOV 21, 2010
on tap-pours a brown head that laces with black color. Aroma is sweet pine, 2nd dark malt. Taste is sweet pine hops, cedar, 2nd dark malt-some molasses (&honey). Medium/full body.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
DSG (12189) - Tel Aviv, ISRAEL - MAR 12, 2011
[3/4/11] Bottle at ACBF 2011. Black. Aroma has some roastiness, coffee, some piney hops and some fruitiness. Burnt bitter flavor with quite a bit of of hops. Full-bodied.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
thewolf (12136) - Kolding, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle, bought @ Skjold Burne, Aarhus.
All black with a large, creamy, light-brown head. Good duration and nice lacings. Aroma is lovely, good wood with piney and fruity hops. Mild vinious, some grapefruit, apricot, honey, plant sap. Medium carbonation, lovely light and creamy mouthfeel. Lovely balanced flavour, good liqourice, mild vinious, some coffee and bitter dark chocolate. Good hops bite, lots of pine, plant sap and grapefruit. Lovely beer.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Bov (12007) - Bienne, SWITZERLAND - DEC 13, 2012
from Erzboerschof - black beer with no head retention; the nose is woody and piney; aroma of black chocolate and honey; pretty roasted; full-bodied and very tasty; some astringency, hugely bitter, pretty dry and long hoppy, chocolatey and woody finish - huge stuff !

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Pinball (11942) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAR 23, 2011
pitch dark, small brown head. roasted malts, winey note.wood. nice slighlty fruity aroma. flavor is wood, roasted malts, loads of hops to balance. vineous touch.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
hopdog (11653) - Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 11, 2010
12oz bottle. Poured a dark black color with a very small sized off white head. Aromas of roast, breadiness, chocolate, some woodiness, and earthy. Tastes of roast, chocolate, earthy, floral, honey sweetness, and woodiness.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
madsberg (11411) - Søborg, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle at ACBF 2011. Dark brown coloured. LIght brown head. Herbs, caramel, light liqourice, roast, flowers, light spice and chocolate in the aroma. Flavou rof cocoa, coffee, caramel, vague smoke, some herbs and flowers. Very nice and smooth. Medium to full bodied. Has a hefty bitter roasted end. Very nice.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
kermis (11261) - Where the wild whales are, NETHERLANDS - SEP 3, 2012
Bottle shared at Delirium Hoppy Loft, side by side with Either. Pours black with a medium thick tan head. Aroma of chocolate, honey and roasted malt. Flavour is heavy sweet and moderate to heavy bitter. Thick oily mouthfeel, but not quite as thick as the Either. Full bodied with soft carbonation. An excellent beer in its own right, but slightly toned down compared to the Either.

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