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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.


4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jredmond (5669) - Manhattan, New York, USA - DEC 3, 2010
Bottle split with pat and Linh. Pours a pitch black with nice light brown lacing. Delicious citrus and pine hop and cedar. Mouthfeel is incredible notes of citrus hop, pine, honey, wood.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
patrickfannon (1241) - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 3, 2010
Bottle. 12 oz. Split with James and Linh. Courtesy of James. Pours a deep, hazy, coffee brown with a thin, lacy off-white head. Aroma of sweet honey, floral lavender, roasty malts, and hints of coffee and fresh red pepper. Medium to full bodied with a sticky, yet firmly malty and rich palate. Slight spice and chocolate bitter notes on the tongue. Finishes quickly and with a bit of roast and dry hops. Excellent black IPA.

4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
craftbeerdesign (2195) - Fort Collins, Colorado, USA - JAN 7, 2011
bottle side by side with ’Either’. deep black pour with a 1/4" tan head. deep bitter nose with big notes of cedar (greater depth than ’Or’). medium body with more cedar notes throughout. very smooth from front to back. some light chocolate comes forward along with some darker fruit notes. big finish with spicy cedar notes, figs, light cherries, peat and some alcohol warmth. Or wins the side by side for me.

4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
lassem (652) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - JAN 10, 2011
My rating nr. 550 goes out to this unique brew that is a colab between some of the most interesting brewerys thats out there at the moment. Hill Farmstead (and Grassroots) and Cigar City from Florida. This dark beauty pours an almost black with a nice cappochino-coloured head. When poured its blasting out tons of hops along with a nice malty roastyness - really nice balanced actually. The first thing I notice when tasting is the burnt roastyness with an upfront ang agressive alcohol-profile. Then it turns over to focus on a mild caramel taste and a great bitter and citric hopping. The palate is really dilicious with a creamy body and round feeling - and despite the firt impression of the alchol it actually turns out to very balanced - and the beer is huge but easy to drink. Yummie!!

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Jaksmart (447) - Aarhus, DENMARK - JAN 15, 2011
Bottle, courtesy of Phredrik. Dark brown blackish pour with small tan head. Aroma has roast, salt liquorice, spices, oak, some peat, slight vanilla and some hops as well. The roast is particularly strong and potent. Taste is nicely burnt and roasted, lots of roasty bitterness and some sugary sweetness. Also strong liquorice, tobacco, aggressive dark berries and a fairly hefty hoppy bitterness. Faint sourness in the end. Very strong and potent, roasted like no other.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
Pwn3d (1961) - Manhattan, New York, USA - JAN 22, 2011
Courtesy of James. Had this right after either... definitely more to my liking, although either is near world class as well.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
beernovice39 (3160) - Montana, USA - FEB 2, 2011
Bottle. Jet black pour with a very thin tan head. Malty scent with wood notes. Taste is very good, hoppy and woody. Not sure what the difference is with the "either" version, I remember really digging the either, this while fantastic is not as good.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
stobbe74 (3789) - DENMARK - MAR 28, 2011
Bottle. Pours a pitch black beer with a large chocolate colored head. The aroma is malt, roasted, berries, wood and hops with citrus. The flavor follows the nose. The palate is bitterness. Overall a really good beer with a good balance and complexity.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
gorditoabd (624) - San Diego, California, USA - APR 27, 2011
12 oz bottle from Al’s beer store in Dupont Circle area DC. Pours a nice deep black with light white foam. Aromas are of leather, soy, anise, and wood. Taste is sublime, an insane blend of bitter, sweet, dark, salty, and woody. Wonderful beer.

4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Maltajo (329) - Tucson, Arizona, USA - OCT 23, 2011
12 oz bottle care of DChmela. Thanks Bro. Wonderful black pour with a nice head. Crisp and bold. Spicy and full of flavor.


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