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RATINGS: 299   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

SSKD814's rating

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
SSKD814 (854) - Pennsylvania, USA - FEB 23, 2011
Huge thanks to Jefe73 for sending this my way! A- Body is a dark, aboding motor oil black hue. Pours with a 1-2 finger creamy dark tan head. Honestly-this brew has big imperal stout written all over it in the appearance- Lacing left all the way down the glass. S- Roasted malt, dark chocolate, and a hint of pine in the back. Roasted malt is the main character. T- Upfront is actually a good amount of herbal hops, a hint of spicy hops, and a hint of citrus, behind this is a huge coffee roasted malt backbone. The finish offers a big dose of refreshing pine in the back and a mild amount of roasted malt lingers. M- Medium carbonation and a medium weight body. D- This is another interesting "black ale". Although this one isn’t as bright and doesnt seem to be as complex as EITHER- the flavors blend together a lot better and this doesnt seem to be as much of a contrast. Overall both are pretty good beers. Serving type: bottle Reviewed on: 01-26-2011 01:42:10

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
slowrunner77 (10244) - Reno, Nevada, USA - SEP 27, 2014
"aroma falls just a hair short of it’c cousin Either, but the overall impact abd flavor are bettter. the cedar is not so strong in the finish, but evenly eveident throughout, and the complexity is the beers strongest point. licorice, honey, chocolate, roasted malt, hops, cigar...not as sweet as the other. VERY nice."

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
jsquire (4167) - St. Marys, Ohio, USA - SEP 23, 2014
Dark beer with some cola highlights when held against the light. Short beige head. Big nose of alcohol, over ripe fruit and hop resin. Sweet beer with some burnt grain notes, fruit cake, molasses, and lots of pine and hop resin in the finish. Odd, style defying beer.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
Alengrin (4604) - BELGIUM - AUG 25, 2014
Collaboration between three breweries, identical to their Either, but with other regional malts and hops. The result is visually the same, but aroma and taste clearly tend more to fruitiness, less dry, more honeyish and chocolatey and in all, rounder and ’friendlier’; hops still govern the finish with a firm hand, strong and long-lasting. Fantastic brew, I liked this even more than the Either, already a very good and fascinating brew in itself.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Sparky (2244) - Phoenix, Arizona, USA - JUL 31, 2014
Share from Boltz. Pours pitch black with a one finger tan head that leaves nice lacing. The nose is citrus hops, roasted malt and pine. The taste is roasted malt, chocolate, ripe citrus, coffee and a nice pine finish. Medium bodied. Nice black IPA. 3.7

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
bhensonb (14170) - Woodland, California, USA - MAR 18, 2014
Bottle shared by oRos. Pours dark brown with a tan head. Aroma is a bit of pine, with chocolate and dark malt. Med body. Flavor is lightly minty chocolate with dark malt.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
oRos (1560) - sacramento, California, USA - MAR 17, 2014
Bottle from Ibrew2or3. Pours black with not much head. Taste is chocolate black roasted malts with some evergreen mint. Or something

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
marcus (9231) - Sacramento, California, USA - MAR 17, 2014
Bottle shared by oRos. Pours dark brown with a tiny beige head and a chocolate aroma. There is a rich chocolate flavor with a dry finish. A bit more subdued than the Either, but just as good.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Leighton (18719) - London, Greater London, ENGLAND - FEB 26, 2014
Bottle shared at Ma Che in Rome. Pours black-brown with a foamy tan head. Burnt cedar wood on the nose with darkened grapes as well. Medium sweet flavor with lightly jammy dark fruits, light chocolate, grape jelly, mellow dry cedar wood. Medium bodied with fine, creamy carbonation. Light warmth to finish with a bit of bitter baking cocoa, earth, ripe and sweet berries. Lovely. Great depth of character.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
jkwood04 (5294) - Connecticut, USA - FEB 20, 2014
12oz bottle thanks to Glouglouburp in an HF tulip. Pours black with a beige head. Aroma of roasted malts (moreso than Either), some sweetness, a little chocolate and light coffee, some dough, and a little floral and lightly citrusy hops. Flavor the same with a nice blend. Smooth texture. A pretty good beer.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
DrSilverworm (9671) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - DEC 6, 2013
12oz bottle, thanks to FlandersNed. Sticker on cap reads "1-11". Shared with local raters. Very dark brown reddish, near black color. Thin khaki ring of head, couple dots of lace. Big body. Smooth, lighter carbonation. Kind of chewy. Lightly dry finish. Smokey, roasty malt aroma. Some coffee and dark chocolate. Light molasses. Prominent earthy hop. Moderate to bigger bitter taste, light alcohol warmth works well for the 11.2% abv. Solid imperial black IPA, drinking well for 2 years old. Prefer this to the Either from what I remember, less oxidization and malty sweetness here.

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