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De Molen List & Bedrog (Ruse & Deception)

Formerly brewed at Brouwerij de Molen
Style: Imperial Stout
Bodegraven, Netherlands
Serve in Snifter


on tap


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RATINGS: 99   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.94/5   SEASONAL: Special   IBU: 89   EST. CALORIES: 357   ABV: 11.9%
OG 1104, FG 1024. Brewed on 19 june 2010, Bottled on 14 January 2011, EBC 259,3. Hops bittering Premian, Land, Chinook, Finalhops Saaz. EBU 89,3. Aged in bourbon barrels.

tiong's rating

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
tiong (6482) - Espoo, - JAN 28, 2012
750ml bottle

Bottled on 14.1.2011 - Pours pitch black with a light brown head. Aroma of roasted malts, wood, oak, bourbon and chocolate. Taste of roasted malts with heavy bourbon notes. Hints of wood, oak and chocolate. Strong warming and roasty finish. Perhaps a bit too carbonated and full bodied, alcohol burns through slightly. Otherwise well balanced and tasty barrel aged imperial stout.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
MrHangover (3999) - Den Haag, NETHERLANDS - AUG 15, 2016
Bottle. Pours a pitch black beer with a medium sized tanned bubbly head. Aroma of light bourbon, licorice, slightly roast and toasty. Flavor is very much licorice, little bourbon notes, a bit too old, but still very nice. The sweetness of the licorice is overwhelming and makes it a bit tart. Very lightly carbonated, long sticky sweet aftertaste. Nice stuff.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 18/20
sjogro (2848) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - APR 16, 2016
UPDATED: APR 18, 2016 At Jim/John is back tasting. Bottle courtesy of kermis. Black with tan head. Rum, deep roasted chocolate malts, woody, quite boozy, old coffee, deep dark fruit, cool dark flavors, complex and hard to define, figgs, melasse. Medium sweet, mild bitter. Medium body, smooth oily boozy mouthfeel, very chocolatey. Really nice.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
jmgreenuk (7836) - Kuala Lumpur, MALAYSIA - APR 16, 2016
Bottle at the Jim / John is back tasting, Den Haag, April 2016. Poured almost black with a frothy tan head. The aroma is rich roasty malt, red berry fruit,, alcohol, light vanilla. The flavour is moderate sweet with a big mellow bourbon alcohol, fruit palate. Medium to full bodied with soft carbonation.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 17/20
Maakun (4064) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - APR 16, 2016
Bottle shared at THT. Black with short lasting light brown head. Cognac, coffee, sweet red berries, ash, lots of sweet chocolate, bourbon, blackberry jelly. Quite sweet with soft roasted finish. Full bodied with slick feel and barely any carbonation. Very nice.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Zakoon (483) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - DEC 19, 2015
750ml bottle enjoyed @ home. Bottle #5 of 753. I completely forgot I had this bottle. Pours black with a long lasting nice beige head. Aroma roasted malt, bourbon, oak, vanilla, leather, prunes, lots of barrel character that gets more smooth as it warms up. Flavour is medium bitter and light sweetness. Full bodied, thick texture, soft carbonation. Finish is bourbon, oak and a hint of grapes and prunes.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 19/20
Maria (10213) - Thisted, DENMARK - FEB 8, 2015
Its pitch black with a brown, dense and long lasting head. The aroma is complex with notes of bourbon, vanilla, oak, roasted malt and licorice. The flavor has a light sweetness and a pleasant roasted bitterness and notes of licorice, bourbon, oak, vanilla, chocolate, its really nice. Im happy I saved this in the cellar - it matured well...

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Martinus (4536) - Baarle-Nassau, NETHERLANDS - NOV 5, 2014
Black colour, beige head. Aroma of chocolate, coffee, roasted malts, vanilla and bourbon. Bitter flavour, roasted malts, coffee, quite roasted. Full body. Finish vanilla, light wood, quite roasted.
(From 75cL bottle @ ZZT 9. Thanks for sharing, ceasar!)

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
ansjelaah (1747) - Westelbeers, NETHERLANDS - SEP 25, 2014
Bottle @ ZZT 9. Black colour with a small light brown head. Smells coffee, chocolate, bitter, roasty. Tastes roasty, chocolate and some coffee. Nice

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
Yorker (1934) - Herning, DENMARK - MAY 25, 2014
Corked 75 cl bottle @ home. Pours black with a tan head that leaves some lacing. Aroma and flavour are roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, bourbon, and dried fruit - with a bitter finish.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
DutchDrebus (5612) - Oirschot, NETHERLANDS - APR 18, 2014
Bottle @ ZZT 9 but Im not sure who shared it. Black colour with a small light brown head. Smells sweet, roasty, coffee, some alcohol. Tastes roasty, chocolate and bourbon, which is just what I like in a stout. Full body, soft carbo.

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