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De Molen Vlaams & Hollands (Flemish and Dutch)

Formerly brewed at Brouwerij de Molen
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Bodegraven, Netherlands
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler


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RATINGS: 84   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.49/5   EST. CALORIES: 168   ABV: 5.6%
Flemish Oud Bruin, with lactobacillus, fermented in Bordeaux and whisky barrels, and afterwards blended. Not very sour , the bordeaux barrels really take center stage. Supremely sophisticated woody aged malt flavor. Mild milky to a whisky dense caramel malt base. Nice blend which gives a distinct more "serious" malt base from the whisky compared to many other Flemish oud bruins, as a consequence the body is more full and smooth.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
Benzai (11353) - Oirschot, THE NETHERLANDS, NETHERLANDS - FEB 16, 2013
Sampled from bottle @ ZZT VI. Vintage 2008. Bottle nr. 286 of 560. Clear autumnal amber color, no head. Smell wood, winey, caramel, lightly liquor. Taste lightly malts, lightly caramel, wood, only lightly some sourish hints and winey. Quite decent still after all those years. Medium body, low to medium carbonation.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
DutchDrebus (5109) - Oirschot, NETHERLANDS - FEB 16, 2013
Bottle 286 (brewed 2008, bottled 2009) of 560 thx to joes @ ZZT VI. Nice copper to bordeaux colour with no head. Smells chocolate, roasty, caramel, salty cheese, wood. Tastes caramel, wood, dark chocolate, a minimal hint of peat, hint of red wine. Nice round taste, medium body, soft carbo.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
MrHangover (3583) - Den Haag, NETHERLANDS - NOV 14, 2012
Vintage bottle of 09. Clear brown color with a thin white head. Aroma of red wine, little lactose and whiskey barrel. Flavor is more sweet than sour, very well aged. Great!

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 14/20
erickok (4464) - Leuven, BELGIUM - NOV 13, 2012
Light brown body, small beige lace. Red wine, some wood, biscuits and spicy, bitterness. Taste is quite flat unfortunately. Maybe too old? Bit of herbal bitterness. Grows on me but not as exciting as expected. (Bottle at Colin’s De Molen tasting)

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
deanso (7191) - the Hague, NETHERLANDS - NOV 13, 2012
Sample at the molten monthly tasting, vintage 08/09. Thin off white head. Hazy amber pour. Smooth aftertaste . Nice brew.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
gunnfryd (13339) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - SEP 29, 2012
Bottle. Dark amber colour with a beige head. Aroma is vineous, hop, malt, fruit, spices. Flavour is vineous, malt, wood, hop,m fruit, spices, yeast. Medium to full body. OK/Nice beer.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
daje (2782) - NORWAY - SEP 2, 2012
Bottle shared at local beer tasting. Clear amber body, white laces. Aroma of sour fruit, hops and wood. Taste of same sour fruits, sweetened by malts. Sweet and sour finish with cherries.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
Beer5000 (5316) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - JUL 18, 2012
Bottle. Deep, reddish body with a disappearing beige head. Aroma has caramel, malt and fresh fruit. Flavor is sweet malty, some caramel, moderate acidic fruit and vinous. Moderate bitterness. Fine body and slightly sour aftertaste. A malty and vinous beer, that’s almost a lighter version of Flemish red or maybe a more beerish version of a Flemish sour? Quite nice.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Geokkjer (6866) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - MAY 25, 2012
Bottle.Pours amber with with an off-white head. Aroma of malt, fruitiness, some spices, yeast and caramel. Flavor is sweet and malty with congac, wood,some red berries, yeast, some spices and fruitiness. Medium body, average carbonation.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
BigMomma (223) - Leuven, BELGIUM - JUL 28, 2011
Details:75cl bottle (#361/560) bottled in March 2009 and tasted in July 2011.
Tasting:Very stiff cage that combined with the green wax is more challenging to open but better looking. Slight pop sound when opening. It pours quite low on carbonisation and ends in a thin creamy white head. The color is cloudy red and appealing. The aroma has a caramel touch at first and oak and a gentle sourness later. Mostly a malt nose with a little lactic sour aroma in it. The flavor represents this with a slight lactic sour flavor that ends in a dry oaky finish that doesn’t stay very long. There is a decent malt character present. The body is medium to heavy and a lot bigger then other Flemish Sour Ale, it is also a bit sticky. This makes the beer a lot less drinkable then other Flemish Sour Ales. The lighter sourness also makes the beer less refreshing.
Conclusion: A less sour, refreshing but maltier and heavier bodied variant of the Flemish Sour Ale.

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