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De Molen Vlaams & Hollands (Flemish and Dutch)

Formerly brewed at Brouwerij de Molen
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Bodegraven, Netherlands
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler


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RATINGS: 81   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.47   EST. CALORIES: 168   ABV: 5.6%
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Flemish Oud Bruin, with lactobacillus, fermented in Bordeaux and whisky barrels, and afterwards blended. Not very sour , the bordeaux barrels really take center stage. Supremely sophisticated woody aged malt flavor. Mild milky to a whisky dense caramel malt base. Nice blend which gives a distinct more "serious" malt base from the whisky compared to many other Flemish oud bruins, as a consequence the body is more full and smooth.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 14/20
erickok (4251) - Tours (and Paris), FRANCE - NOV 13, 2012
Light brown body, small beige lace. Red wine, some wood, biscuits and spicy, bitterness. Taste is quite flat unfortunately. Maybe too old? Bit of herbal bitterness. Grows on me but not as exciting as expected. (Bottle at Colin’s De Molen tasting)

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
deanso (6511) - the Hague, NETHERLANDS - NOV 13, 2012
Sample at the molten monthly tasting, vintage 08/09. Thin off white head. Hazy amber pour. Smooth aftertaste . Nice brew.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
gunnfryd (12307) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - SEP 29, 2012
Bottle. Dark amber colour with a beige head. Aroma is vineous, hop, malt, fruit, spices. Flavour is vineous, malt, wood, hop,m fruit, spices, yeast. Medium to full body. OK/Nice beer.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
daje (2648) - NORWAY - SEP 2, 2012
Bottle shared at local beer tasting. Clear amber body, white laces. Aroma of sour fruit, hops and wood. Taste of same sour fruits, sweetened by malts. Sweet and sour finish with cherries.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
Beer4000 (5046) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - JUL 18, 2012
Bottle. Deep, reddish body with a disappearing beige head. Aroma has caramel, malt and fresh fruit. Flavor is sweet malty, some caramel, moderate acidic fruit and vinous. Moderate bitterness. Fine body and slightly sour aftertaste. A malty and vinous beer, that’s almost a lighter version of Flemish red or maybe a more beerish version of a Flemish sour? Quite nice.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Geokkjer (6439) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - MAY 25, 2012
Bottle.Pours amber with with an off-white head. Aroma of malt, fruitiness, some spices, yeast and caramel. Flavor is sweet and malty with congac, wood,some red berries, yeast, some spices and fruitiness. Medium body, average carbonation.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
BigMomma (223) - Leuven, BELGIUM - JUL 28, 2011
Details:75cl bottle (#361/560) bottled in March 2009 and tasted in July 2011.
Tasting:Very stiff cage that combined with the green wax is more challenging to open but better looking. Slight pop sound when opening. It pours quite low on carbonisation and ends in a thin creamy white head. The color is cloudy red and appealing. The aroma has a caramel touch at first and oak and a gentle sourness later. Mostly a malt nose with a little lactic sour aroma in it. The flavor represents this with a slight lactic sour flavor that ends in a dry oaky finish that doesn’t stay very long. There is a decent malt character present. The body is medium to heavy and a lot bigger then other Flemish Sour Ale, it is also a bit sticky. This makes the beer a lot less drinkable then other Flemish Sour Ales. The lighter sourness also makes the beer less refreshing.
Conclusion: A less sour, refreshing but maltier and heavier bodied variant of the Flemish Sour Ale.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Koelschtrinker (12453) - Köln (Cologne), GERMANY - MAY 29, 2011
Karamellig-herber, sehr ausgewogener Antrunk. Der Hopfen breitet sich im Mittelteil aus, denoch bleibt das herbe Aroma aus dem Antrunkführend. Die Karamelligkeit steigert sich konstant. Zum Ende grasig. Interessant, wie die grundverschiedenen Aromen harmonisieren! 10/11/11/12//11 Wenig säuerlicher Antrunk mit deutlich malzigem Beiton. Dabei ist das Bier süffig, mit der Zeit wird das Bier würzig-malziger, somit auch aromatischer. Zudem wird das Bier säuerlicher, dennoch bleibt dieses Aroma insgesamt mild. Im Nachgeschmack trocken, wenig aromatsich, das Malz ist nur noch durch seine Röststoffe vorhanden. Nettes süffiges Bier, das sich aber nicht sonderlich hervortut. 11/11/11/10/11/11

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
madmitch76 (17899) - , Essex, ENGLAND - MAY 29, 2011
UPDATED: JUN 4, 2012 15th May 2009
Copenhagen Beer Festival. Hazy brown beer. Semi dry palate. Just a light touch of sourness plus a sprinkling of spices.

9th December 2009
Hazy red brown beer. Light biscuit head. Palate is light and slightly soft and semi dry. Not too sour! Coca cola, creamy malt and a subtle drop of worcester sauce.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Glouglouburp (6104) - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA - NOV 29, 2010
In short: A sweeter, muddier and more vinous attempt at the classic Flemish Sour style. Good beer.
How: Bottle 750ml. Split three way at Cheval Blanc, Montreal
The look: Cloudy burgundy body topped by long-lasting small beige head
In long: First, this waxed, corked and caged bottle was a bitch to open. Nose is mostly typical classic Belgian Flemish Sour with the sour oak, cherries sensation and such. Taste is a little less classic Belgian Flemish Sour than the nose. Big chewy body, lots of wood, oak sourness, lots of fruity caramel, liquorice candy, tannins, grapes, yeast. A bit vinous. Sourness level is medium and the beer has a medium tannic astringency. Overall this was rather faithful to the style although it was less clean and polished than the good examples of the style (Rodebach Grand Cru and friends). Enjoyable beer. That was about the tenth beer of a long beer night. Many more followed. Too many. And the day after it was the same old story. Same negative attitude from my girlfriend. Why doesn’t she congratulate me about the three rooms I didn’t puke in?

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