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De Molen Vlaams & Hollands (Flemish and Dutch)

Formerly brewed at Brouwerij de Molen
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Bodegraven, Netherlands
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler


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RATINGS: 84   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.49/5   EST. CALORIES: 168   ABV: 5.6%
Flemish Oud Bruin, with lactobacillus, fermented in Bordeaux and whisky barrels, and afterwards blended. Not very sour , the bordeaux barrels really take center stage. Supremely sophisticated woody aged malt flavor. Mild milky to a whisky dense caramel malt base. Nice blend which gives a distinct more "serious" malt base from the whisky compared to many other Flemish oud bruins, as a consequence the body is more full and smooth.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Koelschtrinker (16442) - Köln (Cologne), GERMANY - MAY 29, 2011
Karamellig-herber, sehr ausgewogener Antrunk. Der Hopfen breitet sich im Mittelteil aus, denoch bleibt das herbe Aroma aus dem Antrunkführend. Die Karamelligkeit steigert sich konstant. Zum Ende grasig. Interessant, wie die grundverschiedenen Aromen harmonisieren! 10/11/11/12//11 Wenig säuerlicher Antrunk mit deutlich malzigem Beiton. Dabei ist das Bier süffig, mit der Zeit wird das Bier würzig-malziger, somit auch aromatischer. Zudem wird das Bier säuerlicher, dennoch bleibt dieses Aroma insgesamt mild. Im Nachgeschmack trocken, wenig aromatsich, das Malz ist nur noch durch seine Röststoffe vorhanden. Nettes süffiges Bier, das sich aber nicht sonderlich hervortut. 11/11/11/10/11/11

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
madmitch76 (21560) - , Essex, ENGLAND - MAY 29, 2011
UPDATED: JUN 4, 2012 15th May 2009
Copenhagen Beer Festival. Hazy brown beer. Semi dry palate. Just a light touch of sourness plus a sprinkling of spices.

9th December 2009
Hazy red brown beer. Light biscuit head. Palate is light and slightly soft and semi dry. Not too sour! Coca cola, creamy malt and a subtle drop of worcester sauce.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Glouglouburp (6103) - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA - NOV 29, 2010
In short: A sweeter, muddier and more vinous attempt at the classic Flemish Sour style. Good beer.
How: Bottle 750ml. Split three way at Cheval Blanc, Montreal
The look: Cloudy burgundy body topped by long-lasting small beige head
In long: First, this waxed, corked and caged bottle was a bitch to open. Nose is mostly typical classic Belgian Flemish Sour with the sour oak, cherries sensation and such. Taste is a little less classic Belgian Flemish Sour than the nose. Big chewy body, lots of wood, oak sourness, lots of fruity caramel, liquorice candy, tannins, grapes, yeast. A bit vinous. Sourness level is medium and the beer has a medium tannic astringency. Overall this was rather faithful to the style although it was less clean and polished than the good examples of the style (Rodebach Grand Cru and friends). Enjoyable beer. That was about the tenth beer of a long beer night. Many more followed. Too many. And the day after it was the same old story. Same negative attitude from my girlfriend. Why doesn’t she congratulate me about the three rooms I didn’t puke in?

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
harrisoni (16932) - Ashford, Kent, ENGLAND - AUG 10, 2010
75cl bottle thanks to Menno for this one. Reddish brown, with a very slight haze. Very thin beige head. Definite red wine and woody aroma. A little vinous in the mouth. For a 5% odd ABV beer, it tastes heavier than it is. Some carbonation in mouth. The woodiness continues into the finish with more red wine and red berry fruits. Not really sour. Just a touch on the finish. Some dryness and tartness on finish. Touch of milky choc. Decent fruit on the finish. Interesting.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Nickls (2336) - Alexandria, Virginia, USA - AUG 5, 2010
Bottle. Dirty, muddy brown with a light tan head, and just very murky looking. Aroma is full of cherries and a lactose like sweet/sourness. Very lightly funky aroma. A little too sweet in the taste for me. Sweetish cherries and some pruniness that finished with lactose and some decent woodiness and a light sourness. Medium body with softer carbonation. Not as sour as I would have like or funky, but all the same fairly solid.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
lassem (652) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - APR 23, 2010
Big bottle. Stamped nr. 339. Dark and deep red with a tanned white head. The nose have clear notes of the red wine barrels. On top of that some wood, malts and sugar. The taste is sour with a bit of dish washer water in the finish. Some nice little farts, burned sugar, a heavy malt base, some wood and sour cherries. The name is absolutely well chosen for this beer

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
thewolf (11986) - Kolding, DENMARK - APR 3, 2010
Bottle. [thank you skortila]
Pours deep, lovely, clear red with a small, frothy, off-white head. Look-wise, this isn’t far beyond a Rodenbach. Aroma has red currants, some vinegar notes, red apple, light yeast and some oaky undertones. Low carbonation, fine mouthfeel and good dryness. Flavour is nice with red currants, red wine, grapes, sweetness, light oaky dryness. Slightly tart and fruity. The dryness and the oak enhances as it warms. Some toasted caramel drops by at the end. Good, dryish, oaky sour ale, even though it really isn’t that terribly sour.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
wyzzywyz22 (2108) - Wirral, Merseyside, ENGLAND - MAR 22, 2010
Bottle from Kris Wines, London. Some sourness in the nose with barrel and fruit notes also. Flavour had similar qualities with sweet malts and yeast also getting involved. Quite a wierd beer and whilst I enjoyed drinking it, I’m not sure I’m entirely sold.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
cgarvieuk (20763) - Edinburgh, SCOTLAND - MAR 8, 2010
Pre-ZBF ... ruby copper ... big creamy tan head ... creamy soft fruity nose ... orange ... sweet juicy hop ... light bitter ... little blood oarnge.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
dEnk (4200) - Den Haag, NETHERLANDS - MAR 7, 2010
UPDATED: NOV 13, 2012 Bottle @ 2nd tuesday tasting. Thx pp! Brownish amber pour, small thin head. Aroma of bordeaux, whiskey barrel, slight yeast, apple, cherry. Mostly barrel now. Nice.

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