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RATINGS: 403   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.5   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 204   ABV: 6.8%
When two gypsies team up with an arrogant bastard, there is bound to be some criminal activity...better to view this project as a conspiracy rather than a collaboration. The strengths of all involved were utilized to break the laws of style guidelines...dark with deception, mysteriously smoked, unexplainably dry, and intriguingly hoppy...maybe itís best not to even talk about it.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
jredmond (6284) - Manhattan, New York, USA - NOV 23, 2012
Draft at capones with Vinny, Alan and Bill. Pours a deep brown with white bubbles, no lacing or head. Aroma is faint roast and hop. Mouthfeel is medium with roast, light hop and spice.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Hopped_Silly (418) - California, USA - NOV 22, 2012
From memory: bottle. Pours nearly black, though not opaque. First whiff, smells simply of classic Belgium yeast. Clean and focused. Palate is also clean, round and smooth. Classic saison flavors, though made in a very crowd-friendly manner. Not to bitter, not to sour, and not to funky... I was hard-pressed to find much smoke in this beer.. Maybe a hint of ash.. Which wasn't disappointing, as I was enjoying the beer just as it was... I would simply consider this a "Black Saison", as the smoke is not prominent. A good beer. --- tasted while on a long journey to understand the world around me...

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
Chuckaduck (674) - Highland Heights, Kentucky, USA - NOV 21, 2012
Pours black with a fluffy off-tan head. Aroma is Belgian yeast, cocoa, spicy, earthy, some funk (brett?), pine, brown sugar. Taste is interesting and somewhat complex with that signature Stone bitterness. Crisp and refreshing with some fruity notes at the start, quickly becomes grassy and herbal with bitterness and some acidity, rounds off with something I canít quite place (caramel or toffee?) and a bitter finish of lemon peel with a touch of cocoa. Some nice lacing. Medium carbonation. Nice full mouth feel. Overall, different but not bad. I would drink more of these, absolutely.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
dalekliz (899) - San Diego, California, USA - NOV 21, 2012
Bottle. Pours a deep black with an off-white head that lingers and leaves a lot of lacing. Aroma of burnt, toasted malt, wood, grass, chocolate. Taste has a lot going on, dry toasted malt, wood, spices and finishes with sweeter tart fruits and hops. Lingering crisp toasted malt and underripe fruits that ends a bit watery. Kind of weird but it works pretty well.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
IrishBoy (3956) - Bakersfield, California, USA - NOV 21, 2012
12 oz bottle from BevMo Valencia. Nose is lightly farmhouse funk, light amounts of chocolate, and a little smoke. Clear very dark brown with a medium, heavy lacing, tan head. Flavor is lightly tart and funky with some light bitterness.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
skmikeg (1318) - Cherry Hill, New Jersey, USA - NOV 20, 2012
Pours pitch black a small tan head which does not last long. Aroma is of smoke, roasted malts, wet hay funk, some bakers coco, some wood, and Belgian spices. Taste is smoked wood, roasted malts, citrus, some floral hops, some coco, faint espresso, and some saison spices. Has medium body with a slighty creamy, well carbonated mouthfeel and a dry, semi bitter, slightly funky, smokey finish. overall, a interesting and pretty tasty hybrid of a rachbier and saison.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 14/20
vtafro (4827) - Wayne, New Jersey, USA - NOV 19, 2012
Bottle. Black pour with light brown head. Some hops, yeast and funky Belgian tones, nice saison notes. Flavor is a by more subtle, but not lacking by any means.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
steview (1036) - Petaluma, California, USA - NOV 19, 2012
Mmm, nah. Like a porter blended with a light sour. I would have preferred them to be separated, or at least reworked. Itís not a crime. It shouldnít be discouraged though. Maybe Iím not ready for this: Haute...

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
J_man (789) - Tustin, California, USA - NOV 18, 2012
Coffee and woody campfire smoke aromas. Dark, crystal clear mahogany red color with a wispy beige head. Usually that kind of smoky aroma means a Rauchbier which Iíve never developed a taste for, but here the smoke perfectly matches the dark chocolate sweetness and espresso bitterness. You can almost taste charred wood and grain, but itís somehow held back just enough that itís delicious and interesting without being overwhelming. There seems to be some earthy, even flowery hop bitterness here, but the charred dryness seems to either mix with or cover this. Leaves behind a nice coffee, graphite dryness and a little bittersweet chocolate. Another excellent Stone collaboration ale.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
halfonit (1227) - Fall River, Massachusetts, USA - NOV 18, 2012
Pours a dark brown color with a little cloudiness . Aroma is of grass, chocolate, faint smoke, toffee, and light spices. Palate is a little lighter than expected. Flavors in this are cocoa, dark chocolate, roastiness, slight earthiness, roasty/toasty, and smoke finish. This is basically a light rauch beer. Actually pretty disappointing in my opinion.

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