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RATINGS: 395   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.5   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 204   ABV: 6.8%
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When two gypsies team up with an arrogant bastard, there is bound to be some criminal activity...better to view this project as a conspiracy rather than a collaboration. The strengths of all involved were utilized to break the laws of style guidelines...dark with deception, mysteriously smoked, unexplainably dry, and intriguingly hoppy...maybe itís best not to even talk about it.


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3.1
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
steview (1019) - San Francisco, California, USA - NOV 19, 2012
Mmm, nah. Like a porter blended with a light sour. I would have preferred them to be separated, or at least reworked. Itís not a crime. It shouldnít be discouraged though. Maybe Iím not ready for this: Haute...


3.3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
phaleslu (6490) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - SEP 5, 2014
12 oz. bottle from Market Wines. The guy who cashed me out said this was awesome; it was the last bottle and I knew it was a collaboration Iíd missed, but didnít notice the í2012í on the neck. Sheesh. Anyway, it pours a dark cocoa brown with a small beige head that lasts as a ring and some wisps of film. Aroma of mild smoked malts, chocolate, caramel, mild spice, leather, toast, roast, earth, cardboard, and a little salt. Flavor of earth, roast, bakerís chocolate, mellow smoke, roots, dark fruit, and slightly burnt toast. Light-medium bodied, with carbonation that starts low before opening up and bubbling on the palate. Lingering roast and mellow smoke. The Belgian influence can be detected, but itís minimal here. Definitely showing its age after two years.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
daleharshman (908) - San Diego, California, USA - JUN 16, 2014
12 ounce bottle purchased a little over 1.5 years ago at Holiday Wine Cellar ($3.99). Pours a dark brown hue with two fingers of tan foam. AROMA of Belgian yeast, chocolate malts, mild citrus, and smoke. FLAVOR of citric hops, lemon iced tea, touch of sourness (not infected), and dark malts which lead into significant and lingering ash/smoke in the finish. Again, a roasty-bitter (rather than hoppy-bitter) and also dry finish with lesser fruity notes of citrus and dark stone fruit. Interesting concept and probably executed well (though I have to question the whole concept of a "black saison"), but there is a lot happening here and the sum is unfortunately not greater than the parts. (395, 874)

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 11/20
hopscotch (9152) - Vero Beach, Florida, USA - MAY 28, 2014
Bottle... Pours clear and dark with a small, fizzy, off-white head. This smells like a misguided pairing of caramel and beef jerkey. Medium to full-bodied with a watery mouthfeel and fizzy carbonation. This tastes a lot like beef jerkey as well... with some herbal notes. Crisp, deeply-roasted finish.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
beer-yum (470) - Wellington, NEW ZEALAND - APR 13, 2014
Upside surprise at a recent Stone Brewery tap take-over in Wellington. First dark beer my better half says she liked - and I thought it was to die for. Deliciously different.

2.7
   AROMA 5/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 11/20
OPIE788 (336) - Ohio, USA - APR 12, 2014
Bottle. Black with a tan head. Aromas of burnt sugar and a hint of smoke. Bitter burnt flavor up front with smoke and roasty malt finish.

3.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Maxbier (254) - Maryland, USA - APR 5, 2014
Dark pour, tan head. Aroma is a hint smokey with typical but much more subtle than usual bready yeasty saison. Distinctly Belgian in flavor with a hint of smoke and a Stone style finish. Pleasure to drink very hard to describe.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
dlovell2 (770) - Columbia, Maryland, USA - APR 5, 2014
UPDATED: APR 6, 2014 Dark brown with tan head. Smoky, roasted malt, brown sugar aroma. Sweet roasted malt start followed with some tartness with slight dark chocolate and smoke notes finished with some citrus hops flavors in finish.

3.3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
Hair6a11 (1356) - Illinois, USA - MAR 20, 2014
Bottle; Pour is murky brown with a fine bubbled khaki head into this glass. Its a one/two finger head and it does retain fairly well here. The nose is bready, roast, fruit esters, with a smokiness present here. The flavor profile is robust roast initial moving to cocoa, modest dark fruits, some minerals, and a touch of chalk. It lacks belgian elements you would want out of the style, with the malt side dominating. Itís not bad per se, and it is a little different, but its not impressive by any means.

3.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 11/20
chinchill (1866) - South Carolina, USA - MAR 5, 2014
At 2014 Most Arrogant Bar Bash (Barleys in Greenvillle,SC) Pours black and opaque, with a very good head. Flavor: very floral, a bit íwildí, with Belgian yeast and light and medium roast malts. Medium+ strength. A bit sweet up front; clightly funky and slightly bitter aftertaste. O: interesting and moderately complex but not my cup of tea.

3.6
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Ferris (4128) - Burnaby, British Columbia, CANADA - FEB 19, 2014
Bottle - Slight soy, dar malts and some grass. Jet brown with a thin beige head. Smoke, peat, hop bitterness, and dark malt. I think this works.


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