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Hardknott Rhetoric #1

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Formerly brewed at Hardknott
Style: Abt/Quadrupel
Millom, England

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RATINGS: 45   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.47   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 306   ABV: 10.2%
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A Quasi-Bombastic Beer. Infused with star anise. http://hardknott.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/rhetoric.html


3.5
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
olio (7424) - Tampere, FINLAND - FEB 21, 2015
33 cl bottle.
Pours dark amber-golden color with a large head. Some wet cardboard is the first thing on the nose, sadly, that pretty much ruins the aging prospects for this. The "cardboardiness" seems to fade towards the end though. Ripe fruits, yeast with some subtle herbal notes on the aroma also.
Extremely sweet toffee-caramel infused fruity flavor, molasses, brown sugar with subtle syrup and yeasty notes, the cardboard eventually shows itself on the flavor too. Alcohol comes into play only on the warming aftertaste. The flavor is more of a Barley Wine, not really getting the Belgian vibe here at all. Sticky sweet, lingering. Complex and rich, although maybe this would have been way better fresh.
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3.9
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
Gary (1630) - Brentford ,London , Texas, Somerset, ENGLAND - FEB 6, 2015
UPDATED: MAR 21, 2015 Bottled @ the Magpie Brentford ; The nose on this is like a Quad and a Barley Wine having sex ... A robust xomplex malt showcase . Notes suggest cherry covered chocolate ..boozy Tangerine ...raisin bread. A touch bready . Extreme cloying rich palate that does surrender to some dryness . Its pretty gud !

3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Stuu666 (6166) - Edinburgh, SCOTLAND - FEB 2, 2015
Bottle at home. Pours copper, nose is blackcurrant, star anise, fruity, taste is rich, juicy, sweet.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
BoBoChamp (5758) - Gent, BELGIUM - NOV 24, 2014
33cl, as Hardknott Rhetoric ’Edition I’, new exclusive English brew Anno 2012, with star anise, from Ales By Mail (UK), complex brew, malty/spicy/sweet and slightly fruity, balanced, clear, small head, good brew, yet expensive!

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Garrold (2493) - Sheffield, South Yorkshire, ENGLAND - NOV 16, 2014
Bottle. Bier Huis, Ossett. Hazy, reddy amber. Film, and a few bubbles of pale tan head. Sweet, All Bran like malts. Dried fruits. The Missus picked up anise straight away. I didnt. I did get vanilla. Toasted tea cake. Very fruity, boozy, and heady. Taste is boozy sweet. Fruity dry. Palate is smooth, rich, oily, and a little chewy. Finishes long, chewy sweet, and light bitter. Really good, big, tasty beer.

3
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 14/20
Hanoi (596) - Greater Manchester, ENGLAND - OCT 8, 2014
Bottle, edition 1. Nose is overpoweringly sweet, pronounced star anise, slight cloves some spice, simple. Taste is cloyingly sweet, alcohol, some dark fruits, stewed apple, the aniseed takes a lot of swilling in the mouth to detect, and is marginal to the point of irrelevance., mouthfeel is too thin. Underwhelming but drinkable.

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
zacgillbanks (3085) - Tyne & Wear, ENGLAND - MAY 27, 2014
Bottle from Open All Hours, Keswick. This is a cloudy red-brown coloured beer that pours without any sort of head. It has sweet, rich red fruit and currant flavours, vanilla and slight tart fruity notes with a creamy, warming spicy fruity finish.

2.6
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 4/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 10/20
chimpgibbon (424) - London, Bedfordshire, ENGLAND - MAY 25, 2014
Bottle at home. Pretty rank really. Way too aggressive in terms of sweetness and general flavour. Cloying and harsh, no subtlety whatsoever. Liquorice, malts, some dark fruit, but just over cooked.

3.4
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
Camons (7508) - Hasselager, DENMARK - APR 24, 2014
Bottle @ Rasmus. Pours amber with a small offwhite head, leaving some nice lacings. Aroma of malt, spice, anise, light oxidation. Flavor is malt, caramel, spice, anise, oxidation, boozy. Full body, soft carbonation, light alcoholic finish. Quite sticky. 240414

3.1
   AROMA 5/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 12/20
chrisv10 (12507) - DENMARK - APR 24, 2014
Bottle "Edition 1", 10.2%. Hazy amber with small dark amber/orange. Aroma is malt, spices, little oxydized, anise and caramel. Flavour is malt, caramel, anise, candy sugar, sweet, sticky, toasted, little oxydized with notes of alcohol.


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