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RATINGS: 708   WEIGHTED AVG: 4   SEASONAL: Spring   EST. CALORIES: 330   ABV: 11%
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Deep ruby red ale. Extreme malty/caramel flavor; sweet up front, finishing with hop bitterness and aroma. Very complex beer. We recommend at least four more months of age. But it is a delight to drink now.
Batch 1 - brewed late 2003, draught only.
Batch 2 - brewed 8/1/2004
Batch 3 - brewed 2/16/2005
Batch 4 - brewed end of Dec. 2005 (part of this batch was bourbon-aged)


4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
00cobraR (1103) - Greensboro, North Carolina, USA - MAR 20, 2007
A style that seems to be gathering a good bit of popularity. Pours out a dark brown color with a nice beige head. Aroma is very sweet with nice choco notes with maybe some fruit. Flavor was sweet with not one bit of hops to it. Had a nice warming to it as it coats the throat. Great brew!

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
ross (2122) - weddington, North Carolina, USA - MAR 18, 2007
2004 Bottle that I got god knows when from a trade with Len (MrManning) Thanks. I have had this for a long time, probably almost a year. Pours out a dark brown color with a thick tan head on it. Smell is sweet, some hints of chocolate, roasted malts, and some sweetness. Taste is smooth and rich, full of dark fruits, malts, and sweet. Perhaps a little too sweet, but still very good. Hops had all but completely faded out of this one. Good stuff, wish I had more, and I would love to pair this with a cigar. Thanks for the bottle Len.

3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
JoeMcPhee (8837) - Toronto, ON, Ontario, CANADA - FEB 24, 2007
Tap at Spuyten Duyvil. Deep brown/ruby beer with almost no head to speak of. Very still appearance. Sweet grapey/vineous aroma. Plums/figs/dates. Soft sweet chocolate and a touch of leathery character as well. There is a touch of saltiness in the nose as well. Warming brings out loads of intensely sweet malts. Flavour is very sweet with dark chewy malts, licorice, dried fruits (raisins/dates/plums) as well as some herbal/spicy hops throughout. Intensely sweet and alcoholic and the sweetness tends to get cloying after awhile. A kiss of smoke on the back of the palate. Chewy palate, peppery alcohol and lots of dried fruit make this an appealing brew, but itís a bit too sweet for me. Still, with it being as cold as it is outside, this makes my belly warm.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
drewbeerme (3895) - Chicago, Illinois, USA - FEB 13, 2007
UPDATED: MAY 12, 2008 12oz bottle, brewed on 2/16/05, almost itsí 2 year anniversary. Sampled next to Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia. Poured deep mahogany with reddish hue and a small tan head around the rim. Nose is lovely, candied dark fruits, plums, currants, brown sugar, bread, chocolate and caramel covered raspberries. The nose seems a little to yeasty which detracts from the notes. Flavor notes has some really nice caramel, dark fruits, raspberries, with a hint of dark chocolate. Only complaint in the flavor is that although it tastes wonderful, the notes donít seem balanced perfectly. Maybe more age will help. Not overly sweet at all. Alcohol is noticed but hidden well. Mouthfeel is rich and smooth. Carbination is low and body is medium. Kuhnhenn has really got something special here. I preferred this over the BA version.4.2.

5/12/08, bottled 2/16/05 making it 3 years and 3 months old. pours brown with creamy tan head. aroma is pretty oxidized, vegetal, sherry, caramel, tobacco. flavors are sweet and oxidized, caramelized dark fruit, sherry, and vegetal. very smooth brew. the oxidized notes reallly smoothed out once it breathed. wow really tasty and easy drinking. although iím not sure this really got better and it would probably get too oxidized with much more age.4.1.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Emil (6065) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - FEB 11, 2007
Bottle. A Dark red brown beer with a small brown head. The aroma is sweet malty, rye bread, soya, caramel and alcohol. The taste is sweet caramel malt, rye bread and alcohol. Medium to full body with a light oxidiced finish.

4.4
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 18/20
marcus (7305) - Sacramento, California, USA - FEB 2, 2007
12oz bottle from Artusory. This dark brown ale poured with a modest tan head that clings to the side of the glass. The first taste is delicious, and it just gets better. There is a plethora of tastes, including chocolate, caramel, cherry, and most notably plum. At room temperature all of these tastes blend into a sweet mellow treat with a very pleasant slightly bitter finish.

4.7
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 20/20
detroiter (958) - Euphoria, Minnesota, USA - JAN 17, 2007
Pours a deep, clear, reddish brown with a thin cap and ring. Decent spotty lacing throughout. Aroma full of plums and alcohol. Super complex flavors here: Molasses, plum, lots of toffee, rum, and licorice. Then I find a hint of bitter chocolate. A little oak, a little dry earthy spice, and more licorice in the finish. Unlike a lot of brewpub old ales, this one isn’t sicky sweet. I wonder how well it ages? Hmmm... This is a full bodied, minimally carbonated sipper of a beer. Why anyone would choose brandy over this is beyond me. On a chilly rainy night, I sat down by the woodstove and entered the fourth dementia, with a twelve ounce bottle that lasted well over an hour. Served at cellar temp in an oversized balloon shaped wine glass. Great great beer.

4.4
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 18/20
DrBayern (1139) - Morehead City, North Carolina, USA - JAN 10, 2007
12 oz. bottle brewed Feb í05. Pours a deep mahogany with a small yet creamy light tan head. This has a wonderfully comples aroma. Brown sugar and dark fruits are immediately evident, but lying underneath is a distinct vinous character complemented by some lightly spicy hop notes. Rich and viscous on the palate, lightly carbonated, and a full body combine for a nearly perfect mouthfeel. Caramel sweetness balanced by some peppery hop bitterness results in a memorable flavor. This definately has a port wine quality, to be enjoyed slowly.

4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
kramer (5348) - Sunbury, Pennsylvania, USA - JAN 6, 2007
12 oz bottle, via Styles, brewed on 8/1/04. Pours a dark amber to light brown with some small chunkies churning about. Minimal beige head remains as a partial covering because of the carbonation. Nose is intensly malty with loads of fruitiness and a nice aged oxidation character. Caramel, toffee, port, resiny hops, and alcohol. So complex, thereís alot going on here. Flavor wise, even with the tinge of oxidation, it canít hold back all the toffee and caramel malts here. Malty and slightly sweet up front, finishing with a warming slightly oxidized finish with a touch of bitterness. A little coffee, plums, raisons, and smoke. No alcohol flavor at all. Mouthfeel is thick and full bodied with a delicious creamy texture and perfect minimal fine carbonation. Minimal stickiness on the finish despite the hefty malt bill. Overall, this was beautiful. I wish that I had more to keep till the 2010 date recommended.

4.1
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
hopdog (9618) - Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 24, 2006
12oz bottle. Bottle labeled bottled on 08-01-04 and best before 2010. Poured a deeper and murky brown color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of caramel, toffee, dark cherries, raisins, and light chocolate. Tastes of toffee, cherries, plums, citrus, caramel, and some brown sugar. Light to medium alcohol in the finish.


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