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Brewed by Brasserie d’Achouffe (Moortgat)
Style: Belgian Strong Ale
Achouffe, Belgium

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RATINGS: 104   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.43   EST. CALORIES: 249   ABV: 8.3%
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4.9
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
corkyrory66 (590) - BELGIUM - JAN 1, 2014
Bière brassée par Achouffe pour Detrembleur à Grand Halleux près de Vielsalm, d’où le nom de Vieille Salme. La Salme étant la rivière, je ne sais pas si la vieille était réellement une sorcière, comme sur l’étiquette, mais cette recette est strictement diabolique. Couleur doré foncé brillant. Apparence avec des matières en suspension, exactement comme dans la marmite des sorcières !!! Bulles fines partout dans le verre mais à montée lente, un peu comme si elles calculaient qui elles allaient manger …. Mousse blanc beige bien crémeuse de type abbaye... Arômes de blé, épice fine, zeste d’orange, houblon fin, aubépine, chèvrefeuille. 1ère bouche au volume soyeux, assez orientée sur l’épice fraîche et la pelure d’orange. Arrière-bouche pleine mais fraîche et fleurie. 2ème bouche avec une belle épice forestière concoctée par les fées de la grande forêt ardennaise. 3ème bouche où on développe les grandes saveurs des fleurs blanches et des épices secrètes. Arrière-bouche très construite. La longueur enchaîne (sans jeu de mots sorciers ou jeu sorcier de mots !!) les saveurs en beauté, bref la belle et la bête... La levure est fine, parfaite, lisse, tendre. L’alcool de la marmite offre une très belle progression et un niveau vraiment intéressant (8,3 % abv). La finale est de grande ampleur et superbes saveurs. Conclusion : très grande bière, que je ne classerais pas personnellement en «belgian strong ale » comme le site, mais plutôt en « spéciale belge forte », ce qui pour les spécialistes n’a rien à voir avec l’autre catégorie, mais nous sommes dans les discussions d’expert... Nous dirons donc très grande spéciale, avec énormément de qualités et des saveurs de niche très spécifiques. Une bière à part, dans le genre fleuri / épicé. Superbe bière ou décoction de l’herbe aux sorcières, à vous de décider... Moi je prends...

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
jbrus (4992) - Delft, NETHERLANDS - MAY 14, 2005
Very citrus lemon and hoppy aroma. Looks great! Golden, large white growing head, good lace. Sweet, citrus, lots of hops, bitter. Very soft, alcohol well present and even burning in your throat. A beter La Chouffe I’d say.

4.2
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
marcoc (3) - Mijdrecht, NETHERLANDS - SEP 23, 2006 does not count
Better than "Big brother" La Chouffe. Even more flavour, spicy. Available in Vielsalm (café Le Bowling, Spar, tourist office)

4.2
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
Bloekie (210) - BELGIUM - AUG 11, 2009
Blonde acidic beer with a nice white frothy head. Aroma is sweet but not altogether complicated. Flavor is very "dark" for a blond beer. Very "belgian strong ale"-like. Palate is really refined, you start of with a bitter hop/malt taste, after which an incredible sweetness washes through your mouth finished of with a nice dry bitterness. Leaves you very refreshed and pleased. Quite surprised this doesn’t score much higher, maybe it’s cause it seems "retired".

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
tderoeck (4737) - Gent, BELGIUM - MAR 31, 2012
28/III/2012 - 33cl bottle from little supermarket (Vielsalm) @ home - BB: 31/VIII/13 (2012-297)

Clear golden beer, big creamy white head, stable, adhesive with nice lacing. Aroma: very malty sweet, some corn, grasssy hops, pretty spicy and herbal. MF: good carbon, full body, creamy texture. Taste: sweet maltiness first, with some citrus and other fruits, then it turns into a grassy herbal bitterness with citrus beneath. Aftertaste: nice grassy to peppery bitterness with a note of alcohol. Well done, I love this kind of Belgian beer. Also: retired? Don’t think so!

4.2
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 19/20
kraddel (3338) - some beerplace, BELGIUM - FEB 11, 2014
thnx to pierre Pours dark , fuzzy blonde, good white head , very very soft From bottle Smell is grainy, bit bitter Taste is unexpectedly good . very, soft, some grains, some hops . All very ( and i mean extremely ) balanced and soft . Rediculously tastefull and soft ( yes, i’ll keep saying that ! ) Very nice ! And perfect carbonation ;)

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Ernest (6232) - Boulder, Colorado, USA - JAN 17, 2005
Head is initially large, frothy, white, mostly lasting. Body is hazy medium yellow, bottle conditioned. Aroma is moderately malty (cookie, toasted bread), moderately hoppy (flowers, herbs), moderately yeasty (cobwebs), with notes of coriander, pineapple, clove, alcohol. Flavor is moderately sweet, lightly acidic, lightly bitter. Finish is lightly sweet, moderately acidic, moderately bitter. Medium body, velvety texture, lively carbonation, moderately alcoholic. Lovely Belgian golden, the telltale Achouffe house character is in abundance (love their yeast), with a great balance of juicy malt and hops. Alcohol sticks out just a bit too much. Akin to La Chouffe and Kwelchouffe.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
Miksu (4948) - Jyväskylä, FINLAND - AUG 5, 2006
Bottled. Golden color with long lasting creamy head. Spicy, , acidic, sweet and tart aroma with hints of pepper, cumin, thyme, ginger and wood. Sweetish malty and spicy flavor with creamy palate. Notes of pepper, vanilla and juniper. Nice dry spicyness and creaminess. No off flavors.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Jerre (2694) - Waregem, BELGIUM - NOV 8, 2006
Bottel, 33 cl. Hazy golden body with low white head slight lacing. Spicy hops with mild alcohol in the sweet, malty flavour. Medium body. Good beer.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
JoeMcPhee (8497) - Toronto, ON, Ontario, CANADA - OCT 31, 2007
Pale golden straw coloured beer with a very creamy sticky white head. Very light spicy aroma. Some white pepper over a dusty and earthy oak character. Lovely bright spiciness. Light mint and soft apricot. Very vibrantly spicy with some wheatiness and a zesty noble hop character. Light fruitiness on the back. Soft tropical notes. A lovely tripel-esque brew.


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