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Brewed by Liefmans (Moortgat)
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Oudenaarde, Belgium
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler

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RATINGS: 1332   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.74   EST. CALORIES: 240   ABV: 8%
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Infinitely complex in aroma and flavor with notes of maltiness and tartness throughout. An unsurpassed old brown with the richness and complexity of a vintage wine.


3.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Aarleks (409) - Sydney, AUSTRALIA - DEC 10, 2005
Bottle: Inviting mahogany tones with ruby highlights glint out from the glass along with a fast fading bubbly tan head. The aroma was complex but dissapointingly aloof, consisting of dried herbs (rosemary, thyme), cola, emerging caramel notes, and an underlying shiraz pepperiness. None of this really sought attention though. On the palate its true identity was revealed. Very gentle acidity with some initial burnt toffee notes that are followed quickly by cherry- or plum-like juicy tones and a nice earthy mustiness. Sadly this was at first acompanied by some slight mettalic hints. However, as it breathed caramel flavours emerged mid-palate. Beautifully low carbonated, though I would be interested to try this from a cask or even totally uncarbonated. A well crafted beer with great life and presence in the mouth. Wonderful.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
omnipuissant (1) - Rotterdam, NETHERLANDS - DEC 7, 2005 does not count
I quite concur with the previous comments, as these seem to be based on the older Goudenbands. Up untill a year ago this was, by far, one of my personal favourites. Yet the 2004 and 2005 brews seem have changed to a standard Belgian dark Abbey style, with only the faintest hint of the previously distinctive sour, wine and port overtones. Will this be permanent? I certainly hope not.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
MI2CA (1340) - Noblesville, Indiana, USA - DEC 4, 2005
750ml - cork says 2003 - Aroma is sour port wine, dark cherry, and Belgian yeast. Pours brown with a small off white head that leaves a ring and decent lacing. Flavor is less tart than the aroma. Cherry, carmel malt, and vanilla. Palate is smooth and clean with a touch of tartness. Very tasty stuff.

3.7
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 14/20
Numenor (871) - Richmond, Virginia, USA - NOV 30, 2005
1987 vintage. A misty sweet wine aroma. Dark brown in color. Bitter caramel taste with an ending similar to the tang in sweet tarts.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
maniac (3800) - Baltimore, Maryland, USA - NOV 28, 2005
UPDATED: APR 3, 2011 Bottle on 04/03/2011 from Once Upon a Vine - South. 2010 Bottle, best before 08-2020, LGB 11 13918. Slightly hazy reddish brown body with a small foamy off-white head. Sweet raisin, sour cherry, fruit, caramel and light balsamic vineagar aroma. Tart cherry flavor, some caramel, fruit and balsamic vineagar notes. Medium body with moderate carbonation. 8/4/8/4/15 - 3.9 11/28/2005 - 1987 Vintage. Poured a brown color with a thin white head that fully diminished. There was a slightly musty wine aroma which may be mostly due to being 18 years old. Very light with a rather sweet flavor. 8/4/9/3/16 - 4.0

3.3
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Nuffield (3718) - Roseville, Minnesota, USA - NOV 25, 2005
Cork says 1998--I wasn’t expecting this to be quite such a vintage ale, and I’ll want to try a mroe recent vintage. Brown color, little head after the pour but there was a good pop on the bottle. Lots of floaties--I actually filtered half of the bottle through a strainer because the level was beyond my tolerance. Vintage character, with raisins and dates, smooth but not thick, and a little bit flat. Slighty sour, low yeast character, low level of fresh fruit, with most of it overcome by vintage character and the high maltiness. Good vintage beer but not as great as a fresh Flemish sour. I was surprised by the high alcohol content.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Cornboy (424) - Eastampton, New Jersey, USA - NOV 23, 2005
Poured hazy amber brown with a fluffy light brown head. Aromas of cherry and vanilla with some dark fruit. Yeasty goodness! Medium bodied, starts off sweet but finishes with a slight sour note. A bit sweeter than expected, but may do well with age.

3.4
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
BeerBlockaid (683) - Brooklyn, New York, USA - NOV 19, 2005
Wigan hosting Arsenal. What a great game...if you’re an Arsenal fan..well Wigan too, they hold out ok. Figured i’d sip this for 90+ minutes. Good smooth and mild choice for such a game. Nice amber brown/purple pour...careful now..lots of sedi sitting at the bottom. Sweet and Sour nose with a little tingle. Taste is a mild sweet sour cherry and vinegar in a smooth oak finish, but nothing really outstanding. Fine with me.:)

3.7
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
joergen (21730) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - NOV 15, 2005
Bottled. Cloudy orange brown coloured with a yellow head. Light acidic aroma with notes of caramel, fruits and wood. Light acidic flavour with notes of fruits and wood. Dry woody finish. Good flemish sour ale.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Styles (2014) - Lincoln Park, Michigan, USA - NOV 14, 2005
Pours oily murky brown/dark red to liht. No head. Huge amounts of sediment. Aroma is very sour vinegar, woodsy, dark sour cherries. Flavor is all sour cherry and vinegar with some wood notes in the finish. Very nice brew.


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