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Brewed by De Proefbrouwerij
Style: Belgian Strong Ale
Lochristi - Hijfte, Belgium


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RATINGS: 39   MEAN: 3.46/5.0   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.42/5   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 243   ABV: 8.1%
Brewed for The Black Cat Brewery SPRL (Rixensart-Genval)

   AROMA 3/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Michael27 (906) - Berlin, GERMANY - OCT 12, 2016
Aus der Flasche in Brüssel getrunken. Rotgold, leicht trübe im Glas mit schnell schwindenem Schaum. Im Antrunk fruchtige Hopfigkeit. Nur wo bleibt der Alkohol.....?????

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Alengrin (4604) - BELGIUM - AUG 28, 2016
Strong ’ambrée’ with IPA ambitions from a low profile beer company in Genval, brewed at the Proefbrouwerij. Very thick and frothy, egg-white, dense, quite heavily lacing, stable head, amberish orange blonde with somewhat pinkish hue, made slightly hazy by tiny bits of yeast divided throughout the liquid and turning completely clouded and more brownish-hued amber with sediment added. Aroma of peach, sweet cherry tomatoes, bread crust, dried violets, dough, some orange, soap, coriander, dried ginger, gin, fried egg, old cheese, cooked potato somewhere, sweet paprika, black pepper, honey, some oxidation setting in with that typical ’rusty’ effect. Fruity onset, apricot, green banana, redcurrant, more sourish than sweetish but soft and rounded, with medium carbonation; supple malt middle, bready and caramelly with a toasted bittering edge in the end, reinforced with a firm dosis of drying, resinous, grapefruit peel-like, peppery hop bitterness countering the initial malt sweetness and lasting quite long; above this basis, fruity esters and phenolic as well as actual, soapy coriander spiciness play along, and a notable warming, but non-astringent gin-like alcohol effect shows up in the end too; lastly there is some lingering bready yeastiness, especially after adding more of the sediment in the bottle. Caramelly malt juiciness and sweetness go down along with the hop bitterness. I’ve seen this being classified as a DIPA, but it remains very Belgian in all respects, basically a classic Wallonian-style strong amber ale, but contrary to the more classic examples in that substyle, strongly hopped up, with a very pleasant, long spicy bitterness in its finish. It’s not because you add a big dosis of hops to a Belgian amber ale that you automatically get an IPA, double or not, though it does fall in the "Belgian IPA" category, a loose category of hop-forward Belgian ales gaining more and more recognition as a separate style in recent years. In short: dryish, well-bodied, earthy (and perhaps just a little bit ’dirty’), fruity and hoppy: no game changer for me, but in itself a decent Belgian strong ale, I enjoyed it - even if this is from an older (33 cl) bottle, so I do suspect the hop character is perhaps somewhat more ’vivid’ and aromatic when young. I keep wondering which hop varieties went into this...

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Lore (2211) - Budapest, HUNGARY - AUG 13, 2016
hzy orange-ish amber colour, large, creamy yellowish off-white head; aroma of toast with marmalade, taste of orange peel oil, bitter orange, some floral honey notes and slight roastedness; interesting

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
corkyrory66 (1429) - BELGIUM - MAY 16, 2016
Tof bière (en bruxellois) de la brasserie artisanale Black cat de Genval, brassée chez de Proef .. mais pourquoi la met-on seulement à de Proef, alors qu’elle est de la région bruxelloise en plein !!! Le brasseur a répondu à cette énigme surréaliste : « les femmes savent parce que !!! ». Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas le bruxellois, c’est intraduisible !!! Signalons que l’étiquette est remplie de calembours Bruxellentiques ... Attention tout cet article va continuer sur la même veine … Alors soit vous êtes amateur de surréalisme, soit vous êtes bruxellois, soit … vous abandonnez !!! Puisque les femmes savent pourquoi, ma bière a été dégustée 4 mois avant terme … (!!??). Couleur ambre caramel Bruxelles, à la clarté nette (klette Mariette à Jette). Bulles fines, en colonnes droites (comme la colonne du Congrès …). Mousse plate zak qu’on dirait un zivereer … Arômes de candi à la va comme je te pousse, malt caraméliquement bon, ambre de cachalot. 1ère bouche douce à souple (passe le balai Marieke), à la belle entame sur malt vanille, mais plutôt grillé … Arrière-bouche au bel assemblage, non peut-être !! 2ème au format d’une ambrée anglaise, mais bien plus riche (que la reine …). Arrière-bouche grillée sur le grill (c’est marrant !!). 3ème moins riche que la 2ème, mais moins idiote aussi (si je puis me permettre …). Arrière-bouche on ne peut plus british (sauf le chapeau de la reine …). Longueur qui en dit long (mais pas plus). Jambes avec des bas résilles (sauf si je ne m’y connais pas, mais je m’en fous !!). Levure qui en ferait relever plus d’un (et j’en connais, mais pas plus de deux). Alcool très bien, mais qu’est-ce qu’il fout là ? Finale à la gare du Nord (ou centrale, mais pas plus loin). CONCLUSION : bière qui ne dit pas d’où elle vient, mais qui ne peut s’en cacher .. tant Genval je vas à Brussel une fois par tous les 3 jours …(!!??). Qu’on a plus soif, mais qu’on la boit quand même … Non peut-être !!

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Pinball (11939) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - APR 30, 2016
cloudy red borwn, small white head. aroma is mainly caramelly. got some dusty hops, but that’s bc the bottle i am sampling is a year or two old. Flavor is malty, slightly caramelly, distinct dark dried fruity. quite a fruity experience, but taste is good and interesting. quite typical strong belgian non-wild ale.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
ads135 (4254) - Omaha, Nebraska, USA - AUG 12, 2015
A pretty decent Belgian Strong. Pours Amber with a thick head. Pretty malty. Lots of caramel, some faint dark fruit, and a a nice bready base.

   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 12/20
sir__v (2145) - Lille, FRANCE - APR 28, 2015
Bottle at Home from Matthieu. Color: clear amber beer with small carbonation and small white foam. Smell: caramel and sugar. Malt finish. Taste: really sweet domination, caramel and brown sugar. Aftertaste: caramel and malt finish. Not my taste at all.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
wekker84 (2200) - etten-leur, NETHERLANDS - FEB 4, 2015
Bottle a orange colored beer with a white head aroma malts oranges caramel yeast citrus and fruits flavor malts oranges fruits spicy some caramel and some hops

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
daniele (8080) - ITALY - DEC 28, 2014
bottle ambrata velata buona schiuma discreta persistenza buoba nota maltate lieve caramello discreto corpo nota erbacea amaro medio ma presente nel finale

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
Alusmamuts (1576) - LATVIA - OCT 24, 2014
Bread aroma. Dark amber with rich creamy off-white head. Rich full taste starting with malty sweetness around the mouth and finishing with hoppy bitterness.

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