maeib (8077) - Wootton, Northampton, Northamptonshire, ENGLAND - JUN 5, 2004
4.9 AROMA 10/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 10/10 PALATE 5/5 OVERALL 20/20
UPDATED: NOV 18, 2012 Well I had to do it at some point. The beer that I’ve always thought of as the best taste I’ve ever had. I’d not had a bottle for 2 years or so and was going to save drinking this until a special number, but after pestering the steward of the club where I drink to get some in, I just had to take some of his hands. I really was nervous that my memory had deceived me and that I didn’t enjoy it as much as I thought, and my very first impression was a tad dissappointing as, although the colour was a beautiful black/brown, there was just not enough head. First point dropped then. However the aroma is just wonderful - coal, licquorice, spices, chocolate and a tad of sourness. 10/10 no question. The taste and flavour though are the things we remember from past experiences, and this was going to be the crux issue. And wow - it didn’t let me down - I knew it wouldn’t really. There is so much flavour in there; most of the things in the aroma are replicated, including the coal, especially the coal! There is fruitiness, sourness, spiciness and alcohol in abundance and all wonderfully balanced. It is just a sumptuous beer. If Westy 12 is as good as this I cannot wait! I had three bottles back to back as it was so good. No hangover this morning either even on top of the two other Belgies I’d drank in advance. Just lovely, lovely, lovely. Score 4.9
Subsequent rating also scored 4.9
arjoseph (634) - Chicago, Illinois, USA - JUN 5, 2004
3.5 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 3/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 14/20
UPDATED: AUG 6, 2006 Re-Rate. Bottle, Oud Arsenaal, Antwerpen. Almost two years later, and my overall rating didn’t change. This one is mostly flavor, as the peripherals (body, smell, looks) aren’t special: burnt caramel and smoky wood chips, sweet milk without its creaminess, and alcohol burn on the back of the tongue. Like the 8, this one seemed hollow and weak the whole way, too watery and thin. Fortunately, this one had some taste. 6/3/8/4/14 = 3.5
Original Rating. Like Oakes, I don’t think there’s much that I can say that’s different, but for posterity, I’ll make a few notes. The alcohol in this beer is very noticeable, especially on the finish, and I think it takes away from the wonderfully balanced flavors in the front. The appearance is sumptuous, and if the finish didn’t ruin the experience for me, I would rate this one as high as most others have. As it is, I’m just hoping to swill it as fast as I can by the end of the glass, which is unfortunate, since there’s so much quality before the finish. That’s just my personal taste, however. 4/4/7/4/16 = 3.5
Pailhead (4245) - Brownstown, Michigan, USA - JUN 4, 2004
4.7 AROMA 9/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 10/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 19/20
UPDATED: JUL 11, 2010 Bottle: Aroma is extremely fruity with a strong presence of alchohol. Also some chocolate in the aroma. Pours a dark brown color with a big tan head with excellent lacing. Flavor is initially sweet with a strong alcohol finish. Some chocolate flavor as well. I’m not real big on the strong alcohol finsih but other than that this beer is pretty good. Not 4.4 good though. I prefer the 8 or 6. Original rating of 8-3-7-3-15
Finally decided to try this again and do a re-rate since I assume my palate has adjusted after sampling close to 1200 beers since my original rating. Aroma has lots of fruit with grape being the stongest. Notes of caramel and chocolate too. Pours a deep ruby with with a huge creamy off-white head with great retention and excellent lacing. How did I ever give this a 3 in appearance? Flavor has lots of fruit and like the aroma, grape is the strongest with some plum. Caramel and chocolate hide in the background. Alcohol does not seem anywhere near as strong as I originally thought but some warmth is still there in the finish. Not much different from my original rating outside of appearance (I have no idea what I saw the first time) and palate.
desurfer (1186) - Melbourne, Florida, USA - JUN 4, 2004
4.5 AROMA 9/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 5/5 OVERALL 18/20
Deep ruby body with a tan, foamy head. Aroma of chocolate, raisins, toffee and plums. Flavor is incredibly rich and complex. Notes of fig, candy sugar, and bitter chocolate. Alcohol only noticeable in the dry finish and the warm belly afterwards. Truly exceptional.
HumuloneRed (751) - Portland, Oregon, USA - JUN 3, 2004
4 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
UPDATED: APR 15, 2007 Nice brown red color. Not much in the way of head. Sweet on the nose with some spice and maybe some fig/fruit. Lots of plum with an alcohol burn at the finish. I like the beer but I think it can be better. I will try it again but put some more age on it.
Aurelius (3731) - Tallahassee, Florida, USA - JUN 3, 2004
3.9 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 16/20
A rich baked prune aroma. Hazy cola brown with lots of floaties. Menacing abv, fruit and a little bit of sassafras tang. A little disappointing in the palate and finish. Some aspirin-like bitterness on the lips. This was a simpler beer than I expected.
PorterPounder (4960) - Tallahassee, Florida, USA - JUN 3, 2004
4.6 AROMA 9/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 19/20
Pleasant, sweet aroma, first thought was gumballs - the kind you get in a machine. Molasses, raisins and chocolate also present. Dark brown pour with a medium thick mocha colored head - good lacing - lots of sediment floating about. Flavor is not as complex as some Quads, but that does not distract from its quality. Has hints of raisins, molasses, chocolate and plums. Exquisite, thick mouthfeel, coats your mouth with flavor. 11.3% ABV hidden extremely well. A true classic, one that deserves its lofty rating.
lachesis (756) - St Idesbald, BELGIUM - JUN 1, 2004
4.6 AROMA 9/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 5/5 OVERALL 18/20
Deep dark redbrouwn color with a creamy bonelike colored froth.Rich fruit aroma’s like banana and dried plums,also touch off dried wood in a forrest.The taste of this Rochefort 10° is is full and intens with notes of rich fruit asian spices and a fine complex bitternes. The richeness off this beer is well in balance with the alcohol. The afthertaste is long,medium dry and warm.
matta (1140) - Tampa, Florida, USA - MAY 31, 2004
4.3 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 18/20
UPDATED: JUN 1, 2004 HaHa, This looks like a Winner!
A deep dark murky brown body with an amazingly thick and downy kaki head. The aroma is full and slightly smoky. Hearty notes of Coco, almonds, and vanilla; I hit upon vibrant dark and fruity notes: plums, dates, apricots, raisins.. Mouthwatering!
Ohhhhhh…. Yeah… Talk about a rich and robust flavor.. Yep, It’s right here!
Raisins, and Dates.. Caramelized brow sugar, butterscotch, candied apples. A plethora of chocolate malts, some Coke a Cola notes, a toasty biscuit, yeasty and full! This is like a insanely nutty Porto, or a 30 year cognac, insanely complex…. Underlying notes of horse stables and cut hay. Chewing tobacco and a black peppery spiciness… WOW, it’s delicious!
I couldn’t imagine a more creamy mocha palate! This beer drapes the glass with the finest wispy lacing… must have coined the term! This my friends is TRUE Artisan Construction!
grat (433) - ST. Louis, Missouri, USA - MAY 29, 2004
4.9 AROMA 10/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 10/10 PALATE 5/5 OVERALL 19/20
UPDATED: JUL 13, 2004 SOOOO RICH!!!
This beer is the sort of thing you break open at your daughter’s wedding. RIDICULOUS!!!!
Opened the bottle and let it sit for a few minutes. Poured. Lovely Garnet head and brown sugar chocolate rose colored body. Lots of little floaties. MMM. Smells immediately like fermented raisins and vanilla. Undertones of chocolate, coffee liquer and hazelnuts. Tastes very round. First element is chocolate. Next raisins. And finally a lovely bittering hop taste that lingers post sip. Mouthfeel is excellent for a quadrupel. This brew has a great balance between the alcohol, the carbonation and the malt. Find it. Buy 57. Cellar half and invite your friends over for the ride of their mouth’s lives.