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Brewed by Brouwerij Rodenbach (Palm)
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Roeselare, Belgium
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler

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RATINGS: 2365   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.81   EST. CALORIES: 180   ABV: 6%
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Bottle: Filtered.
A blend of 1/3 young beer and 2/3 of beer aged 2 years in large oak vats. The more important proportion of oak matured beer contributes to its fruity taste, complexity and intensity. The finish is worthy of a great wine.


3.8
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Christian (11722) - Odense, DENMARK - SEP 6, 2004
UPDATED: DEC 12, 2007 2007 re-rate: I didnít like this beer to begin with, but I knew it was special and have been tasting at least one bottle a year. Iím finally getting it, and really enjoyed a bottle last night. The flavour now feels like a wonderful refreshing sourness, and a powerful hop finish. Raised the score from 3.2 (high in aroma, low in flavour) to 3.8. Original 2004 rating: Dark red brown beer with a small off-white head. Big, complex aroma with lemon, berries (especially cherry), vanilla and a hint of vinegar. The flavour is still rich and complex, but with far too much acid for my taste. And I get unpleasant memories of fruit juices gone off and naturally fermented. I guess I have finally found a beer style that isnít for me...

3.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
jcwattsrugger (11454) - Florida and, New Jersey, USA - JAN 6, 2009
750ml bottle-pours huge overflowing, no, an "exuberant presentation" as joet says [ok, I read the thread on Arbor Brewing bottled beers]. Rocky/foamy tan head with red/brown color. Aroma is sour cherries/apples, spice, oak, medium malt, some antiseptic/astringent notes. Taste is very sweet/tart/fermented/sour cherries/apples, spice, oak, medium/dark malt, some antiseptic/acidic notes. Complex, finishes semidry and puckering. Interesting/occasional/sipping.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
thewolf (11440) - Kolding, DENMARK - MAY 18, 2007
Bottle. 33cl. Pours a hazy reddish brown with next-to-nothing head. Aroma is powerful, sour with dried fruits. Flavour is slightly smoky, with a nice balance of sourness and caramel - the end is slightly tart. Good example of the style.

3.3
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
HenrikSoegaard (11436) - Randers, DENMARK - JUN 2, 2007
Bottle. Creamy off-white mostly lasting head. Amber colour. Light malty moderate hoppy sour aroma. Moderate sweet light bitter flavor. Very vinius acetic flavor with cherry notes. Average finish. Oily palate.

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
Pinball (11337) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - AUG 12, 2008
UPDATED: MAR 6, 2009 2008.08.12 best before 2010. might be useful as a chemical for removing paint. aroma was acid, very acid. flavor was acid too. very acid. more acid than vinagre. it burnt in the mouth. i braved up another sip to get the palate - palate is that it grows in your mouth.. yuck. hard to imagine something worse than this. iím not sure it was meant to be THIS acid and sour. 2009.03.06 re-rate.bbf 4-6-2010 apeears clear brown, thick light brown head. aroma is acid , vinagra, sour. flavor is still strikingly acid and sour. concentrated vineagra. beneath that a very nice sour. if i should describe, take a cantillon, add sugar and vineagra. strange brew.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Ratman197 (11106) - Arvada, Colorado, USA - AUG 23, 2007
750 ml bottle poured a clear reddish brown with a small lingering amber head. Aromas of berries, apple, grape, oak and a hint of vinegar. Palate was light bodied crisp and tart. Flavors of fruittiness, oak, light straw and a faint hint of spice with a crisp lingering tart finish.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
bierkoning (11044) - La Tropica, NETHERLANDS - MAY 28, 2002
UPDATED: AUG 9, 2004 I bought the bottle in 1986. Aroma: wood, cherries, sherry. Carbonation has partly disappeared. Still sour taste, but the intense sourness has eased away somewhat. Cherries, wood, chocolate and porto in the very complex taste. Almost creamy cherry aftertaste. What a great and very special beer after all those years!! Re-rate "fresh" beer best until 3/04. Creamy head. Oak, apple and cherry aroma. A good deal of sourness. Oak, cherry, some fruity sweetness and creaminess in the flavor. Has this beer become sweeter as it was some 15 years ago? It remains a beer of great depth and high quality, but I'll deduct 0,2 point from the original rating. Another re-rate: most recent Palm-Rodenbach version. Great aroma: caramel, oak, mustard. Rather vinous. Sweetish flavor: cherry, oak. Tart, but not as tart as it was 10 years ago or so. Grapefruit and even banana. Wunderful beer, even now. Not the dominating sours of the past, and I would like it less sweet, but that is partly restored by the complexity. 9 4 8 3 17 = 4.1

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Lubiere (11014) - Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA - AUG 31, 2004
Red copper beer with a frothy small white head. Cherry wood and horseblanket aroma. Sour cherries and lactic fill the mouth very pleasantly, puckering the mouth. The label claims there is corn in this!!! If i tatsed this blind, I think this would be a kriek...bizarre...but good.

3.5
   AROMA 5/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
kp (10884) - Woodstock, Georgia, USA - SEP 1, 2007
Date: 11/09/1997
Mode: Draft
Source: map room, Chicago

dark amber, whispy head, sweet-n-sour malt aroma, dark amber, puckering sour malt flavor, semi sweet, very complex
-------- /> Date: 04/06/2006
Words: aged

clear dark brown, big tart cherry aroma, lots of tart flavor, very dry,

Aroma: 5/10; Appearance: 8/10; Flavor: 7/10; Palate: 5/10; Overall: 16/20
Rating: 3.5/5.0
Score: **4
-------- /> The score was calculated based upon the notes and an old scoring system.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
FatPhil (10724) - Tallinn, ESTONIA - JUL 30, 2007
UPDATED: JAN 22, 2013 330ml bottle (7:4:8:4:15=3.8)
Rich clear brown, light fizzy head. Sour graininess rather than fruits on the nose. Update - gentle berry-fruit component found too today - bumping up aroma by 1 point. Palate is incredible, a very mellow nutty oak feel, with hints of the impending sour rush and smooth maltiness. Sure enough - thereís a light but still potent sourness at the back of the mouth as you swallow, and the vapours waft more mellow woody sensations around the mouth.Almost cantillon-like finish, but a bit more sour, and much much darker - more mid-roasted malt and vanilla oak.
Rerate: 330ml bottle (Stockmann, Tallinn) (6:4:8:4:14=3.6) - acetic aroma too prominant.
Rerate: 330ml bottle (Drink Shop, Tallinn) (7:5:8:4:15=3.9)
Poured into a straight glass with plenty of space, so had a massive head, which it kept for a very long time - looked beautiful, such a deep red. Beautiful soft sweet aroma, hinting at cherry and purple grapes. Thereís a gentle sourness, more like a tartness than anything acetic, fortunately. A little bit of toffee later. In the mouth - wow, an instant cherry rush up the back of the nose. Served quite cold, but fullish in the mouth; residual sugars weighing it down a little, but crispened up by pleasant carbonation and the gentle sour prickle. Cherry fades to oak, and that sweetens as it mellows in the finish. This is the beer as I remember it at its best, itís a world class sour red, one might almost say the definitive one that others should be compared against.


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