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Brewed by Brouwerij Rodenbach (Palm)
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Roeselare, Belgium
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler

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RATINGS: 335   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.83   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 300   ABV: 10%
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COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
2004 Vintage, from a single "Foeder" (N° 135)(barrel), ripened for 3 years, uncoloured.


3.1
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
hellomynameis (874) - Mayer, Minnesota, USA - MAY 10, 2008
Pours very still and a golden orange. Aroma has some sour and a bit of dough. Light and fruity at first, develops sourness and complexity. Sour on the tip of the tounge, has some grain and lightly sweet malt parts to it. Coats the back of the tounge and leaves some lactic sour in the back of the throat.

3.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 13/20
Crosling (1863) - Loveland, Colorado, USA - MAY 18, 2008
Bottle, Ma Che Siete Venuti a Fà, Rome, Italy. Light golden. Mildly aromatic, with hardly any depth, some sour fruits. Mild malts, some sourness. Not sweet like the grand cru. Very little depth, not alive. Ok taste. A bit dull. Just an ok beer.

3.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
AmEricanbrew (5523) - Same Trailer, Different Park, Louisiana, USA - SEP 11, 2009
Bottle# 2066. Clear copper color with a fleeting head. Nice sour cherry green apple pit fruit aromas with vanilla and wood. Smooth medium body. Lots of vinegar in the flavor- i’m thinking over aged wine; tough to get past this, with sour cherry, mild vanilla, pit fruits.

3.1
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Jblauvs (1337) - Manchester, New Hampshire, USA - AUG 12, 2010
Port like pour, glowing amber/gold. Aroma is reminiscent of ice wine, with some acetic acid and paint thinner as well. Lightly syrupy mouthfeel is slippery down the throat. Flavor is sour white grape juice, a bit of acetic acid, but degenerates to an acetone, paint thinner finish. Not great

3.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
ClarkVV (3863) - Allston, Massachusetts, USA - MAR 24, 2014
UPDATED: MAR 26, 2014 Bottle sampled 3/15/14
Flat, lifeless and clear ruby-amber liquid in the glass.
Prunes, tons of toffee and caramel. Over-ripened red fruits. Concentrated sweet strawberry jam and tons of vanilla from the oxidation. Smells like it’s going to be very, very, very sweet....
And not surprisingly, it is very, very, very sweet. I found very little flemish brown ale here and quite a bit of a barleywine with light to moderate Belgian influences. Very light on the acetic aspects, with just ripe red fruitiness and an ever so slight aceto-lactic tartness. Tons of toffee and caramel, light soy and lots of vanilla-like oxidative notes. Pretty low on the alcohol though!
I can’t envision how this would have been particularly good when younger. It’s just powerfully caramelly beer with very little tartness for balance. Would have had less oxidation, but just as much punishing sweetness. Very convinced a lot of this beer’s reputation was hype and rarity.
If Alexander can be near a 5.0 after 10-12 years of age, than screw this stuff /end-justification-for-why-I’m-rating-this-rant. Ugh, Palm....Call me up when they discover a single Foeder of aged pre-Palm bier....

3
   AROMA 4/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 13/20
onystrom (1316) - Magellan Hunter! - Skanderborg, DENMARK - MAR 19, 2008
Clear yellow color with small head. Its a sour ale... very vinegar but rather plesant with the right food...

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
TaktikMTL (5546) - Montréal-Nord, Quebec, CANADA - APR 10, 2008
Bouteille verte de 375 ml, avec bouchon de liège, partagée lors d’une dégustation Ratebeer Montréal chez Glouglouburp. Arôme: Odeur légèrement sûrette avec une pointe de citron. Apparence: La couleur est dorée. Saveur: Goût de pommes sûrettes avec une pointe de citron et de miel. Courte durée de l’arrière goût. Palette: Le corps est moyen avec une texture légèrement huileuse. Faible effervescence en bouche. Présence de fruits sûrettes en arrière goût. (Rating #1607)

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
SaintMatty (4743) - Uppsala, SWEDEN - FEB 1, 2010
375ml Bottle - Amber in colour. Fruity and vinous aroma. Tart taste with grain, caramel and raisins. The tart finish lingers and leaves a burning sensation. Not my kind of thing, although this was at the end of a long day!

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
kp (10886) - Woodstock, Georgia, USA - DEC 25, 2011

Name: Vin de Cereale
Date: July 07, 2010
Mode: Bottle
Source: Tasting
Appearance: clear gold
Aroma: tart apple aroma, light mustyness, touch of wood
Flavor: big tart flavor with a balancing sweetness, nice fruity apple, dry crisp finish
Aroma: 6/10; Appearance: 6/10; Flavor: 6/10; Palate: 6/10; Overall: 12/20
Rating: 3/5.0
Drinkability: 7/10
Score: ** /4

2.9
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 2/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 12/20
Rastacouere (6107) - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA - APR 3, 2008
Objectively speaking: 2004 bottle (#904). A very different beer from what I expected. A flat, clear amber liquid that aims for controlled oxidation.
I like: Vinous. Not exagerated sourness. Cerealic indeed. The most fascinating feature is the deep woodiness. Smells like wood, simply. No wateriness and no oiliness despite being flat.
I dislike: Boy, is this lifeless? Very dull appearance. Corky oxidation. It really is an attempt at oxidation kept under control to emphasize the woodiness, but it did not grab me. Lambics seem to at least keep a certain freshness. Here it’s apple and butter.


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