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RATINGS: 2462   WEIGHTED AVG: 4.27   IBU: 100   EST. CALORIES: 240   ABV: 8%
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Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, "lupus Salictarius", meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, humulus Lupulus, was adopted. Pliny died in 79 AD while observing the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. He was immortalized by his nephew, Pliny the Younger, who continued his uncleís legacy by documenting much of what he observed during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Pliny the Elder, the beer, is brewed with 40% more malt and over twice the amount of hops as compared to our already hoppy IPA.


4.8
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 20/20
fredandboboflo (1570) - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA - AUG 25, 2008
UPDATED: FEB 10, 2009 Bottle. Aroma hop forward, and bitter hop forward but also with pine, grass, mango, cherry. Flavor also brings about a mintiness to the pine and all the flavor really opens up more in the mouth with less of an emphasis on the bitter and instead on all the pine, fruits, hops and malt together. Worried at first, but turned into something excellent. 7-4-9-4-17

Bottle, I believe exactly a month old upon consumption. And though I really didnít take any notes this time around...wow, just wow...

4.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
LilBeerDoctor (3440) - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA - AUG 25, 2008
UPDATED: JUN 24, 2009 Reviewed on 8/25/08. Bottle courtesy of xmarcnolanx (thanks Marc! Iíve been hoping to try this beer for awhile now!). Bottled 7/10/08. Pours a light orange with a thick foamy head. Aroma of super bitter grassy hops. Flavor is pretty similar to Blind Pig but with more malt. Initial sharp hops bite with some citrus and a slight sweetness and light fruitiness on the finish Pretty tasty although still on the bitter side. 7/4/8/4/16 (3.9/5)

Update 1/31/09. Bottled on 12/30/08. Pours a clear light orange with a small bubbly white head. Aroma of citrus, grapefruit, and bitter grassy hops. Lots of citrus in the aroma (which I did not detect in the previous bottle). Flavor is bitter and grassy initially with a sweet, citrusy (lots of orange peel!) finish. Mostly on the bitter side. Hop-forward for sure and I really would like to see a little bit stronger malt base in this. No change in #s just comments!

Update 3/30/09: On tap at Caponeís. Pours orange with no real head. Aroma of citrus, grapefruit, and hops oils (similar to Younger). Flavor lacks the grassy hops I got in the bottled version. More malty and not as fruity as I remember (although more citrus comes out as the beer warms). Nice hop oils. Quite tasty, probably a tie between the tap version and super fresh bottled version. Ironically, the fresher this is, the more malt I get from it, not sure why. Obviously, still a delight. 8/4/8/4/16 (4.0/5)

Update 6/24/09: Apparently Pliny is one of my most updated ratings! Anyway, I was lucky to get another fresh bottle (4 weeks old) from Naven and it was even more awesome than I remember. Lots of glorious hop oils and grassy hops and crackery malt. Superbly enjoyable. Yep, Iíve gotta up my rating. 8/4/9/4/18 (4.3/5)

4.9
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
LtDan (1784) - Los Angeles County, California, USA - AUG 25, 2008
UPDATED: JAN 8, 2010 On tap at the Toronado in SF. Didnít have much head, but as fast as the place was pouring it, I knew it was fresh. Smelled like Christmas trees, tasted of piny and citrusy hops. Perfect carbonation, perfect thickness. Wasnít too sweet or malty, but not too overly bitter and dry.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Bradrcr (806) - Renton, Washington, USA - AUG 24, 2008
8/24/08 On draught at the Dog & Pony, Renton, Wa. Aroma is sweet, floral and smooth with no harsh characteristics. Appearance is clear gold with a well maintained white head. Flavor is grassy caramel with slight harshness, but very little. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with light starchiness and a low carb texture. Overall, big and complex, but relatively decent for drinkability; still the standard.

4.8
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
aplusbreaks (330) - Boulder, Colorado, USA - AUG 24, 2008
Bottled 7/30/08. Poured a hazy golden/orange with a thick, not big, off white head, great lacing on this one too. Aroma of FRESH hops literally jumps out and slaps you in the face. Other aromas include some grapefruit, pine, and hop resin. Flavor is a smooth yet spicy (hop spicy), grapefruit, resin, and pine. The hops are not overwhelming like you might expect of a impy IPA of this caliber. I personally didnt know to much about this beer when I bought it, other than the employee telling me "I must" but after drinking this, Im gonna say this is the best imerial/double IPA I have had. Fecking delicious. I want more!

3.4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
BlackForestCO (977) - Aurora, Colorado, USA - AUG 23, 2008
UPDATED: AUG 27, 2008 Bottle shared by Crosling, thanks man. Poured a clear golden-copper color with a thick off-white head that slowly diminished to a layer and left decent lacing. Aroma of moderately resiny, oily hops with some light citrus (grapefruit and orange, predominantly) and a hint of pine. Light, sweet maltiness with a bit of citrus leads into a earthy hoppiness with a bit of light pine in the finish. Nice carbonation and a pretty light hoppy bite. Pretty good for an IPA , but doesn’t seem at all like an IIPA, but it seemed more reserved and balanced than I anticipated.

4.6
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 19/20
scoth (493) - Fort Collins, Colorado, USA - AUG 23, 2008
Bottle dated 073008. Pours cloudy and golden. Thin head, and not very much carbonation, but nice lacing. Effervescent smell of pine and grapefruit. Smooth and delicate palate. Wraps your tongue with a delicious bitter hop flavor, and a understated malty sweetness. Consistent taste from beginning to end, closely matching the smell. Bitterness is mild and nicely-balanced for the style.

4.1
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
Lagunitasfan (1313) - San Diego, California, USA - AUG 22, 2008
500 ml bottle, dated 073008. A great hazy apricot color with just the lightest lacy off white left after the dense initial head dissipated. Smell is more full and rounded than many sharp IPAs. Great hoppy smell, with fresh green grapes hidden, and alcohol. Roasted first flavor. IPA/hoppy sharpness is not shockingly strong and likes the back of my tongue. It’s not overly sharp, nor is it overly sweet. It’s hard to describe the dominant taste sensation. There IS a big taste there, just not comparable to other big IPA flavors I know. Very interesting. It definitely sticks to the back of my tongue/throat. I was hoping for a religious experience, but instead I just really like this, and need to try it a bunch more times to understand it, I think. I’m going to give it a rating, but come back and revisit the rating when I drink another, and another... Later, I mean. Not tonight. Hmmmmm. I do like it a bunch, just not what I was expecting.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
EHopper (619) - Minnesota, USA - AUG 22, 2008
Tasted on vacation in CA. Thanks Jeff and Jer! Amber color, grapefruit and peach nose, with a bright, almost sour edge, may sour cherry. The taste really surprises you. Sweet pine nuts and plum with a grapefruit and bitters aftertaste that only begins long after you have savored the flavor. An inspired brew.

4.5
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
theisti (3215) - Leawood, Kansas, USA - AUG 22, 2008
UPDATED: SEP 29, 2009 ++++ Re Rate 29 Sept 2009 ++++
500 ml bottle purchased at Argonaut Liquors in Denver, Colorado. Bottled on 083109 marked on the label. Pour is hazed golden orange with a perfectly formed two inch slightly off white head that falls slowly with think patchy lacing. Wonderfully inviting beer. Aroma is present on pour, big dank resin pine citrus hops. Very natural, soft, rounded and inviting. The malt is present as well, earthy hay and toasty. Nice balance. Taste is big resin hop right away, really grabs the taste buds and goes. The mango pineapple citrus and pine follow shortly after, in concert with the toasty mineral earthy malt. The balance and transition of flavors is just superb. Palate is medium bodied with a nice carbonation, which dries the mouth with a slight bitterness. Such a clean and drinkable beer - no wonder I keep buying it at every opportunity. (9,5,9,4,18 - 4.5)

++++ Original Rating 22 Aug 2008 ++++
500 ml bottle generously shared by mreusch. Bottled 7/10/08. Pour is hazed golden with a two inch white head. Great lacing as it settles. Aroma is really fresh resin citrus hops. Some orange peel in there as well. Great nose. Taste is big hops, resin, pine, some bitter citrus grapefruit notes. There is some malty sweetness near the middle, then quickly drys out to a bitter hop finish. Palate is nicely mouth coating, lingering hop biterness and resin. Wow, this is a nice one. Thanks for sharing this one Matt! (9,4,8,4,17 - 4.2)


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