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RATINGS: 2624   WEIGHTED AVG: 4.27   IBU: 100   EST. CALORIES: 240   ABV: 8%
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Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, "lupus Salictarius", meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, humulus Lupulus, was adopted. Pliny died in 79 AD while observing the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. He was immortalized by his nephew, Pliny the Younger, who continued his uncleís legacy by documenting much of what he observed during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Pliny the Elder, the beer, is brewed with 40% more malt and over twice the amount of hops as compared to our already hoppy IPA.


4.3
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
thickfreakness (132) - AUSTIN, Texas, USA - JUL 26, 2008
UPDATED: OCT 27, 2008
Had another bottle today that was about a month old and got a distinct cantaloupe note. This beer just keeps getting better and better.</br>

From a bottle: 7/4/8/4/17 Thanks to mwompus on BA for some fresh bottles. Pours a bright, glowing orange with a beige head and sticky lacing all over the glass. Smell is tons of Pine, grass, floral, grapefruit and also some honey and biscuit malt. Sort of understated smell really, it just doesnít jump out at you. The taste is just an extremely smooth blend of pine and grapefruit hops. Iíve never had a DIPA go down this easily.

From a growler: 8/4/8/4/18 Many thanks to ricand for sending me an extremely fresh growler. It pours a golden, straw yellow. With a creamy white head and tons and tons of sticky lace left on the glass. Pine, pine and more pine. Just tons and tons of glorious, dank hoppage. A slight bit of pineapple and grapefruit and maybe the tiniest amount of maltiness. Chewing on pine cones. Not much other hop flavor is coming through and only the slightest bit of malt. Highly unbalanced but it is an amazing hop bomb. Again, a chewy resinous mouthfeel. Medium bodied with just enough carbonation. So incredibly drinkable. I couldnít detect the ABV at all and just zoomed through the first pint of this one. An exceptional DIPA.

4.5
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
Pastor (799) - Skowhegan, Maine, USA - JUL 26, 2008
UPDATED: JAN 24, 2009 Thanks to session1979 for this one Growler poured into a pint glass had a good finger worth of off white head that went to a good thick lace .The body was reddish amber in color and clear Growler The aroma of this brew is mostly fresh hops although not as much as expected The growler was a little more than a week old so that may account for it. The pine and citrius still is there but some caramel malt to the nose as well Iím on the second glass from the bomber and I will say that the taste is not what I expected from a west coast DIPA the hop bitter was there but it was well balanced with the malts. Almost a little watery not as oily as I would expect either the carbonation was good. I will have to try a bottle of this one as well to double check this It could be a case of expectations not living up to reality donít get me wrong the flavors are still great but not as much of a hop bomb as expected Iíve had two pint glasses already and will finish this growler of this afternoon so the drinkability is just fine by me Bottle Revisited this one thanks to the bottle thethrone sent me. This bottle is much better than the growler I received. Clear hazy copper body some small sediment floating in it. Big white head much lace ensues after it goes Aromasí of big pine and citrus filled the air and my head. Flavors are extremely hoppy and the mouthfeel is nice and oily. Yes I like this beer it is an Incredible DIPA. Drinkability is off the charts. I am glad they started to bottle this; I will defiantly search this one out again.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
DTM (798) - Winters, California, USA - JUL 25, 2008
UPDATED: OCT 9, 2008 Bottle from Monument Liqour in Concord, CA. Poured a copper color with a good sized white head. Smelled of citrus and floral hops. Tasted of citrus hops, pine hops, whatever hops they could find went into this beer. Too much for me. All in all a good beer, but if youíre not a hop lover it wonít be one of your favorites.

4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 15/20
fiver29 (1036) - Cleveland, Ohio, USA - JUL 22, 2008
Bottle pours a clear golden color with a nice frothy white head. Has a real nice aroma to it. It reminds me of pine and citrus right away. The mouthfeel is medium and leads into a great upfront citrus blast. That leads to a great caramel malt flavor that finishes with a pine flavor. Overall this is a really nice brew. I am not sure how they managed to avoid hop haze with this one. It was so clear. Good stuff.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 17/20
Aquilo (571) - Berkeley, California, USA - JUL 21, 2008
This stuff is annoyingly hard to find. But today I found it. And I am not disappointed. Pours light yellow-brown, with a medium white head. Smells like a barley wine. A bit of hops, but mainly rosemary and pine. There is a nice layer of peaches to offset the bitterness. The hops are stronger in the flavor, and there is a resiny pine flavor as well. A bit of lime. I like my imperial IPAs to have a creamier mouthfeel that this. But overall, this is not bad. Not bad at all.

4.4
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
GAManiac (1944) - Atlanta, Georgia, USA - JUL 21, 2008
500mL Bottle. Pours a clear golden amber with a massive two-finger puffy white head that hangs around for ages leaving a wall of lacing all the way around the glass. Smell absolutely jumps out of the bottle. Massive, massive hop aroma with huge pine scents up front, like walking into a pine forest. Grapefruit, oranges, lemons, all kinds of wonderful floral and citrus scents in this one. World class smell. Taste is almost as impressive as the smell with citrus hops up front with grapefruit and lemons. The bready malt backbone shows up a little bit in the middle before the pine blast kicks in to provide a wonderfully bitter finish. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with strong carbonation that zings the tongue with hop bitterness and sticks on the palate for a while. This is a world class example of a DIPA and probably the new standard for me.

4.3
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
FlacoAlto (3810) - Tucson, Arizona, USA - JUL 17, 2008
Bottled On Date July 10, 2008; Sampled July 17, 2008
A soft pour produces a three-finger thick, light tan colored head in my 25cl tulip glass. The beer is just so expressively pungeant with hop aromatics that just jump out at me as I am pouring this beer. It sits in my glas with a light amber, copper hue and shows a clear, bright gold hue when held up to the light. The aroma is just sticky with hop character; huge lychee notes, super ripe apricot, bright tropical fruit notes, candied grapefruit, expansive tangelo and Curacao orange peel are all easily noticeable. The other side of the hop aroma spectrum lurks just below the fruit notes with herbal notes that are quite floral, some pine that adds some backbone to the aroma and a light, dank, hemp-oil like note that adds just a bit of an edge to this brew. What I love about the aroma is the focus on the fruity hop notes, but it still has some of the more herbal notes that add a touch of offset and a touch of contrast. If you really dig for it some cracker-like malt notes are just noticeable underneath all of the dominating hop aromatics.

Aggressively bitter up front, though not overwhelmingly so, this is quite herbal as it first hits the tongue, but becomes redolent of super ripe hop fruit flavors through the middle and finish. At this point the bitterness kicks in again and a clean, biting hop note lingers on the tongue for quite some time after the beer has left my mouth. Pine-sap flavors up front yield to tropical fruit notes of lychees, almost pineapple and other fruit flavors of apricot, peach and ripe tangelo. The explosive up front fruit flavors seem to get scraped from my palate by the aggressive herbal and pine notes that seem to get more pronounced with every sip. A short respite from the beer seems to accentuate the fruit notes a bit more again, but it is still as if my tongue has been scraped by some very herbal hops that have left a permanent mark. Still this aggressively herbal hop character (that is definitely riding the edge of being laden with hemp oil) never buries the hop-fruit flavors. While certainly not light, this is eminently drinkable; not so heavy that it has not business having the letters of IPA on the label; this is my definitive example of what the texture and heft of a double IPA should be.

The aroma of this beer is just so nice; the dominant hop fruit notes are perfectly controlled by the softer herbal hop character. The flavor is a bit more herbal in balance and is quite scathing in its hop attack. Still the bitter, sharply herbal hop notes never get out of control, but this beer still makes me feel like my tongue has been abused and scraped raw by the aggressive hop character. This is most definitely a well constructed brew, and in some aspects this is quite definitive for the style. A benchmark for the style that I will never get enough of.

Sampled NHC 2004
Total 4.2, 9/4/9/4/16

Rest a lightly hazy copper color in my glass. This has an in-your-face orange aroma on it. An intense hop taste is found here, but it still manages to be quite smooth. This is a citrusy, grapefruit, nectarlicious hop bomb. This beer has a tangy zing quality to it, this just zaps my taste buds. This beer is defined by itís over the top hoppiness, yet still manages to by a smooth hop hit. There are lots of pine notes as well as an equal level of grapefruit notes in this beer. All in all this is a very well made double IPA, what else can you expect from the guy who is credited with inventing the style.

4.7
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 10/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
robertjm (786) - Albany, California, USA - JUL 17, 2008
They’re starting to bottle Pliny the Elder now. Nice solid white head. Aroma is an absolute killer!! This is what an IPA is supposed to smell like. Smells just like the last brand new hop supply I opened from the homebrew shop. Golden color. Very pretty. Flavor goes hand in hand with the aroma. This is awesome. Do you like hops? Then search this out!! You won’t be disappointed. I had this on tap at the brewery and my tasting notes didn’t rate it nearly as high as I have it here. The only thing I can think of is that it was warmer and not as carbonated there, which the bottle was chilled more, which probably concentrates the hop flavor, and certainly feels a lot more carbonated.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 18/20
bsierra (213) - Vista, California, USA - JUL 17, 2008
On tap at Pizza Port Carlsbad. Pours a clear light amber, almsot a plisner like gold. Very sticky and rocky white head and great lacing. Aroma is very sharp and pungent with grapefruit and pine hop character. Some mango hoppiness and sweetness in the flavor with more pine in the end. Orange and citrus all the way through. Sticky hoppy bitterness in the end. I felt that this was hoppier, more bitter, and yet more balanced and easier to drink than say a ruination for example. This is a pleasure to drink.

3.2
   AROMA 5/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 13/20
Simcoe (5) - , California, USA - JUL 15, 2008 does not count
A great beer can still be ruined by ground hop pellets. I detected a strong potential for greatness behind what seemed like a lawnmower bag full of grassy leafy crushed-plant-cell-membrane nastiness. Please correct me if I am wrong about the use of pellet hops so I can better understand this beer.


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