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RATINGS: 2475   WEIGHTED AVG: 4.27   IBU: 100   EST. CALORIES: 240   ABV: 8%
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Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, "lupus Salictarius", meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, humulus Lupulus, was adopted. Pliny died in 79 AD while observing the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. He was immortalized by his nephew, Pliny the Younger, who continued his uncle’s legacy by documenting much of what he observed during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Pliny the Elder, the beer, is brewed with 40% more malt and over twice the amount of hops as compared to our already hoppy IPA.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Gusler (2653) - Tucson, Arizona, USA - JUN 14, 2004
Draught @ O’Brien’s San Diego

The beer pours somewhat deep amber; the head is white and full in size, the texture semi-creamy with the lace a velum like sheet to conceal the glass. Nose is hop floral, sweet malt underneath, lime like crispness, fresh and a treat for the nose as well as the eyes. “Zap” the hops slam your taste buds to attention, magnificent is a word I think fits perfectly, stern acidity with a hop spicy dry aftertaste that leaves you puckering and eager for another taste. A beer certainly made for us lovers of hops and another great example of the big California Imperial IPA’s.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
scraff (2121) - Baltimore, Maryland, USA - JUN 14, 2004
Liar’s Club - tap - San Diego. Clear amber and gold, creamy off-white head. Nose is big shots of fresh "C" hops with grapefruit, sticky sweet pine, florals, apricot, and some earthy caramel. Flavor matches aroma. Medium to full-bodied, smooth, creamy, semi-dry finish. You want the typical beer taste of Southern Cali, you gotta try this one for sure. Good stuff!

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 16/20
beerguy101 (5282) - Newark, California, USA - JUN 13, 2004
Orange gold color. Large head. Aroma is floral hops, fruity and sweet. A medium to full bodied Imperial IPA. Malts are fruity and sweet. Hops are grapefruity, piney, floral and citrusy. A remarkably well-balanced IPA. Malts and hops clash and balance with every sip. Hoppy and bitter yet fruity and sweet. Great hop signature. Creamy full mouthfeel. NICE beer. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean and smooth. Aftertaste is bitter.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
hopscotch (9152) - Vero Beach, Florida, USA - JUN 12, 2004
On tap at the Liar’s club in San Diego... Crystal clear, golden ale with a small, creamy, off-white head. Good retention and excellent, thick, creamy lace. The aroma is of cascade hops, apricot, spruce, light smoke and habanero without the heat. The flavor pretty much mirrors the aroma. Medium-bodied with a creamy mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Lengthy, lightly bitter finish with a little grassiness at the very end.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
UNCCTF (477) - Charlotte, North Carolina, USA - MAY 28, 2004
On tap at the Toronado in San Francisco; my first IIPA. Bronze coloring with a small head; a fruity flavor finished off by a nice bitter finish. A big beer, and a great one.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
dahatherley (35) - Los Angeles, California, USA - MAY 22, 2004
On tap at The Englander. Orange body with medium white head. Great piney hop aroma. Strong spicy bitterness is fairly balanced by the malts--more so than in their standard IPA. Alcohol is hardly detectable for a beer of this strength.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
SDbruboy (1864) - San Diego, California, USA - MAY 21, 2004
Draft. Poured clear amber with a thick, creamy white head. Delicious aroma dominated by grapefruit hops, malts noticible as well. Rich flavor, carmelly malts, wow, way grapefruity hop flavor with more hops. A little unbalanced but not bad. Body is smooth and full with creamy carbonation.

   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Vac (2445) - San Diego, California, USA - MAY 16, 2004
This IIPA pours with an orange amber body topped by a thin head with a good amount of lacing. The aroma is slightly sweet and grapefruity with tons of bitter, piney hop notes. The flavor is very bitter, piney and hoppy with a slight grapefruit note. This is one of the hoppiest beers I’ve ever had. Full bodied, warming and slightly dry.

   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
duff (5484) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAY 15, 2004
Tap, Toronado, San Fransisco. Full on Americn hops in both aroma and flavour. Massive grapefruit pine, and heavy bittrness. Despite being massively hopped this manages to maintain some balance and softness around the edges. A good beer.

   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
DarkElf (3033) - La Jolla, California, USA - APR 30, 2004
UPDATED: JAN 30, 2005 (Draft: O’Brien’s in San Diego, CA) Strongly hoppy aroma is amazing and let’s you know what you’re in for with this beer: hops, hops and more freakin’ hops! Unfortunately, this double IPA is less malty than some others in this category, so this ends up being strongly dominated by the hops right from the start, and especially in the finish where wince-inducing grapefruit and hops are pushing the legal limit; For the amount of hops, it is surprisingly moderate in bitterness though; The 8% alcohol is well hidden; Clean and crisp on the palate, though definitely a medium to full bodied beer; Light amber color; Huge carbonation bubbles rise very quickly through the beer; Off white head has average retention and leaves some patchy lacing.<hr>(Draft: O’Brien’s in San Diego, CA; 28-Jan-05) Compared side-by-side with Pliny the Younger, and while I like Pliny the Elder, I definitely like the Younger more. Again, my impression is that this beer isn’t as balanced as I prefer, with the malt just being terribly submissive to the hops. Very hoppy, very bitter, strong grapefruit, and that remains consistent from start to finish. So if you’re an all out hophead, Pliny the Elder is your Imperial IPA, but if you’re like me and prefer a potent malt presence in your Imperial IPAs, Younger is better.

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