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RATINGS: 2482   WEIGHTED AVG: 4.27   IBU: 100   EST. CALORIES: 240   ABV: 8%
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Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, "lupus Salictarius", meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, humulus Lupulus, was adopted. Pliny died in 79 AD while observing the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. He was immortalized by his nephew, Pliny the Younger, who continued his uncleís legacy by documenting much of what he observed during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Pliny the Elder, the beer, is brewed with 40% more malt and over twice the amount of hops as compared to our already hoppy IPA.


3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
hopscotch (9163) - Vero Beach, Florida, USA - JUN 12, 2004
On tap at the Liarís club in San Diego... Crystal clear, golden ale with a small, creamy, off-white head. Good retention and excellent, thick, creamy lace. The aroma is of cascade hops, apricot, spruce, light smoke and habanero without the heat. The flavor pretty much mirrors the aroma. Medium-bodied with a creamy mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Lengthy, lightly bitter finish with a little grassiness at the very end.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
UNCCTF (477) - Charlotte, North Carolina, USA - MAY 28, 2004
On tap at the Toronado in San Francisco; my first IIPA. Bronze coloring with a small head; a fruity flavor finished off by a nice bitter finish. A big beer, and a great one.

3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
dahatherley (35) - Los Angeles, California, USA - MAY 22, 2004
On tap at The Englander. Orange body with medium white head. Great piney hop aroma. Strong spicy bitterness is fairly balanced by the malts--more so than in their standard IPA. Alcohol is hardly detectable for a beer of this strength.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
SDbruboy (1864) - San Diego, California, USA - MAY 21, 2004
Draft. Poured clear amber with a thick, creamy white head. Delicious aroma dominated by grapefruit hops, malts noticible as well. Rich flavor, carmelly malts, wow, way grapefruity hop flavor with more hops. A little unbalanced but not bad. Body is smooth and full with creamy carbonation.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Vac (2445) - San Diego, California, USA - MAY 16, 2004
This IIPA pours with an orange amber body topped by a thin head with a good amount of lacing. The aroma is slightly sweet and grapefruity with tons of bitter, piney hop notes. The flavor is very bitter, piney and hoppy with a slight grapefruit note. This is one of the hoppiest beers Iíve ever had. Full bodied, warming and slightly dry.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
duff (5484) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - MAY 15, 2004
Tap, Toronado, San Fransisco. Full on Americn hops in both aroma and flavour. Massive grapefruit pine, and heavy bittrness. Despite being massively hopped this manages to maintain some balance and softness around the edges. A good beer.

3.8
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
DarkElf (3033) - La Jolla, California, USA - APR 30, 2004
UPDATED: JAN 30, 2005 (Draft: OíBrienís in San Diego, CA) Strongly hoppy aroma is amazing and letís you know what youíre in for with this beer: hops, hops and more freakiní hops! Unfortunately, this double IPA is less malty than some others in this category, so this ends up being strongly dominated by the hops right from the start, and especially in the finish where wince-inducing grapefruit and hops are pushing the legal limit; For the amount of hops, it is surprisingly moderate in bitterness though; The 8% alcohol is well hidden; Clean and crisp on the palate, though definitely a medium to full bodied beer; Light amber color; Huge carbonation bubbles rise very quickly through the beer; Off white head has average retention and leaves some patchy lacing.<hr>(Draft: OíBrienís in San Diego, CA; 28-Jan-05) Compared side-by-side with Pliny the Younger, and while I like Pliny the Elder, I definitely like the Younger more. Again, my impression is that this beer isnít as balanced as I prefer, with the malt just being terribly submissive to the hops. Very hoppy, very bitter, strong grapefruit, and that remains consistent from start to finish. So if youíre an all out hophead, Pliny the Elder is your Imperial IPA, but if youíre like me and prefer a potent malt presence in your Imperial IPAs, Younger is better.

4.4
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 17/20
Sickboy282 (1115) - San Diego, California, USA - APR 26, 2004
UPDATED: AUG 17, 2009 Had on tap, on cask, and though the the DFH Randall beer filter. On cask, it may have been one of the best IIpA Iíve had. On tap, a little to carbonated and a little too much bitterness. The bitterness took away from other aspects of the beer. But still a decent IIPA and will try again.......Update--- this is my favorite double ipaís. Always tasty and almost always available at obriens. Well balanced with hoppy, bitter finish with just the right amount of sweetness (very little) to balance it out.

4.1
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
dirtymike (2016) - Manchester, New Hampshire, USA - FEB 29, 2004
GABF '03, hops,hops and more hops.Just like advertsied citrus and PINE.A very good IPA, I wish it were available on the East Coast.

4.5
   AROMA 10/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
Eyedrinkale (3213) - Astoria, New York, USA - DEC 14, 2003
UPDATED: OCT 17, 2005 Another fine beer by Vinnie. I cannot wait for more of this stuff. If you read this Vinny, when is the bottled version going to be availale? Please Beer Mail me.


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