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Stone 17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA

 
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Formerly brewed at Stone Brewing
Style: Imperial IPA
Escondido, California USA
Serve in Shaker, Snifter

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RATINGS: 618   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.75/5   SEASONAL: Series   IBU: 102   EST. CALORIES: 285   ABV: 9.5%
COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
Our latest anniversary beer, starring an all-German cast of malt and hops, is yet one more glorious example of a Stone IPA brewed outside the box. Our brewers have brought their experiments with German hops to fruition, leaving convention behind to create this hefty IPA entirely with pilsner malts. These provide a superbly crisp mouthfeel, while a unique mix of noble and new-school hop varieties adds layers of bright, bitter flavors. Despite the daunting name, this beer isn’t designed to bring about the end of the world, but it just might destroy some of your preconceived notions of what an IPA can be.

Hops bill: Bitter-hopped with Magnum Late kettle additions: Herkules, Merkur and Opal Whirlpool: Emerald (aka Smaragd) and Strisselspalt from the Alsace region of France, which is just a stone’s throw across the Rhine from the German border. Dry-hopped with a 50/50 blend of German Hersbrucker and Sterling

Malt bill: Weyerman Pilsner Malt, Briess GoldPils Vienna


4.2
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
wlajwl (5772) - Quad Cities, Iowa, USA - AUG 26, 2013
Aroma is yeast, citrus, light tropical fruit, hop resin notes and malts. The flavor is citrus, tropical fruit/candy, mild hop resin, a hint of grapefruit and a mix of bitter, dry and slight sugar/fruit in the finish.

3.2
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
3fourths (9136) - Boulder, Colorado, USA - AUG 26, 2013
Bottle. I intended to scroll past this one but the forum talk about possible diacetyl and sensitivity to flaws made me curious enough to actually read about this beer. Pilsner malt and German hops? I’m interested. Sometimes they work magic in Anglo-American styles, but with 100+ IBU and Stone making this thing, I had a guess how this would smell and it’s mostly correct: cheese rind and cheesecloth / whey is a character I get in beer which overuse German hops (Keserű Méz is a great example of this smell and flavor but it’s not a beer you can find without going to Hungary so it’s not a good recommendation, but it’s what I think of when I smell these sorts of Westernized beers with German hops). Aroma has mild touches of that distinct German pilsner malt sweet baked bread and biscuit character but mostly the nose is hops, no surprise (give them credit for some malt expression in the aroma, more than you get in typical double IPA). A little game-y and somewhat like banana candies (runts), but the primary notes are floral / pepper / cheese rind / BO, again typical of using an absurd amount of German hops. The light lemon character and the stronger pepper and floral scents and all that, I see that as what you get with Hersbrucker and Sterling and Strisselspalt. Not so much citrus fruit character as you would expect given the Hallertauer and Opal and other hops used. A small bit of garlic and onion is there as well, which reminds me of Simcoe, and funny enough some descriptors I found online for two of these strains that I’m unfamiliar with mention Simcoe as a substitute. As for diacetyl? Not at all. Perhaps something in this beer varies wildly bottle to bottle but I would not guess diacetyl, and I consider myself very sensitive to it - for me it doesn’t manifest simply as butter, but as rancid foot sweat and popcorn flavoring (which uses diacetyl). It also manifests as an oily solvent-like texture on the palate. I get oiliness in this beer but it’s not solvent-like and there is no rancid character. Instead, guess what, it tastes like a high-gravity pilsner malt beer made with loads and loads of German hops. So maybe the American DIPA drinkers are seeing this German hop character as butter, the thing that I call cheese rind, must, BO, etc. Sweet, medium to full bodied, some pear and white grape-like esters, some bubble gum and pineapple rind and citrus peel show up as it breathes but it’s not pulpy or juicy. At 10% it’s very boozy for me, and the hop acids linger in the mouth while the alcohol burns the throat feeling like acid reflux. I’m not a fan of the hot alcohol or the excessive bitterness, but the aroma and the approach are pretty enjoyable, though I’d take a 5% version at 35 IBU any day over this version. YMMV.

3.4
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
RABinCO (1508) - Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA - AUG 26, 2013
Draft. Pours gold, slight white head. Slightly grassy, citrus aroma with bits of bread and cereal. Assertive bitterness but not overwhelming like many Stone anniversary beers.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
RobertDale (5431) - Lansing, Kansas, USA - AUG 26, 2013
22 ounce bottle. Pours a clear golden orange with a nice white head. Aroma of citrus, pine, and malt. Taste is grapefruit, pine, malt, and florals. Somewhat bitter. Decent.

3.5
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
sloth (2806) - Ceciltucky, Co., Maryland, USA - AUG 26, 2013
UPDATED: AUG 27, 2013 Medium sized white head with good retention and nice lacing. Bright copper/gold colored brew. Nose is nice, spicy and grassy with some fruity hints.Body is medium with a nice carbonation, a hint oily, crisp. Lightly sweet malts, grainy goes well with the grassy hop flavors. Little earthy and spicy with a fairly dry and bittered finish. No budduh! Bomber from statelineliquors.

3.7
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
TheHOFF43 (2043) - Robbinsdale, Minnesota, USA - AUG 26, 2013
Bottle. Pour is orange with lots of head, great lacing. Tons of fresh floral hops, some citrus as well. Flavor is nice, but doesn’t compare to other Stone IPAs. Very good beer, $7/bomber.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
JBoan (176) - Arizona, USA - AUG 25, 2013
Pours golden amber with white two finger head. Smells of huge hops, citrus, grapefruit, pine needles and floral notes. Taste is bitter floral hops, fresh grapefruit, pine and a resin finish. Not as balanced as other Stone beers. Clean hop refreshing beer, but not in the same category as RuinTen, and Ruination.

0.8
   AROMA 2/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 1/10   PALATE 1/5   OVERALL 1/20
JFParnell (63) - Washington, USA - AUG 25, 2013
Another swing and a miss Stone IPA for me. Has that disgusting bitter aftertaste that I abhor. I continue to be amazed that Stone while capable of producing such great Imperial IPAs such as Ruin Ten, and Ruination, are still able to let me down entirely with beers such as Gotterdammerung and Enjoy By.

3.7
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
GT (9982) - Oceanside, California, USA - AUG 25, 2013
Tap at Mohawk Bend. Thanks to ChinoSkillzian. Clear orange. Sheety white lacing. Nose is candies, orange rind, fresh fruit. Taste is juicy, squashy, big noble hop squash and honeydew and cantaloupe. Doesn’t get sticky or alcoholic. Pretty nice.

3.7
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Terminus (3560) - St. Louis, Missouri, USA - AUG 25, 2013
UPDATED: AUG 26, 2013 Rerate-2nd bottle-The aroma on this one was very clean leading me to think that the previous bottle was infected. This one has less cereal/husky malt profile as well with no diacetyl. Good but still not great. Bottle purchased at Celebrate in Las Cruces, NM August 2013. Pours bright orange hue with a nice soapy white head and sparse lacing. an exploder? i didnt have any carbonation issues as some have reported. Nose is wierd-pils malts, lite butter (i dont know if that is diacytl or not) yet somewhat medicinal and floral. I cant get passed the butter. Flavors showcase the german pils malt, herbal hops, lite butter (still there), floral and lite spicy hotes. the malt profile here is very grainy and leaves a very dry finish. lingering minty notes in the finish alongside the dry cracker malt profile. What is up with the diacytl? I have never had a stone beer that had Diacytl. Like the finish and appearance but other than that, this one is a strikeout for me.


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