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Stone 17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA

 (RETIRED)
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91
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Formerly brewed at Stone Brewing
Style: Imperial IPA
Escondido, California USA
Serve in Shaker, Snifter

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RATINGS: 618   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.75/5   SEASONAL: Series   IBU: 102   EST. CALORIES: 285   ABV: 9.5%
COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
Our latest anniversary beer, starring an all-German cast of malt and hops, is yet one more glorious example of a Stone IPA brewed outside the box. Our brewers have brought their experiments with German hops to fruition, leaving convention behind to create this hefty IPA entirely with pilsner malts. These provide a superbly crisp mouthfeel, while a unique mix of noble and new-school hop varieties adds layers of bright, bitter flavors. Despite the daunting name, this beer isn’t designed to bring about the end of the world, but it just might destroy some of your preconceived notions of what an IPA can be.

Hops bill: Bitter-hopped with Magnum Late kettle additions: Herkules, Merkur and Opal Whirlpool: Emerald (aka Smaragd) and Strisselspalt from the Alsace region of France, which is just a stone’s throw across the Rhine from the German border. Dry-hopped with a 50/50 blend of German Hersbrucker and Sterling

Malt bill: Weyerman Pilsner Malt, Briess GoldPils Vienna


3.2
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
3fourths (9016) - Boulder, Colorado, USA - AUG 26, 2013
Bottle. I intended to scroll past this one but the forum talk about possible diacetyl and sensitivity to flaws made me curious enough to actually read about this beer. Pilsner malt and German hops? I’m interested. Sometimes they work magic in Anglo-American styles, but with 100+ IBU and Stone making this thing, I had a guess how this would smell and it’s mostly correct: cheese rind and cheesecloth / whey is a character I get in beer which overuse German hops (Keserű Méz is a great example of this smell and flavor but it’s not a beer you can find without going to Hungary so it’s not a good recommendation, but it’s what I think of when I smell these sorts of Westernized beers with German hops). Aroma has mild touches of that distinct German pilsner malt sweet baked bread and biscuit character but mostly the nose is hops, no surprise (give them credit for some malt expression in the aroma, more than you get in typical double IPA). A little game-y and somewhat like banana candies (runts), but the primary notes are floral / pepper / cheese rind / BO, again typical of using an absurd amount of German hops. The light lemon character and the stronger pepper and floral scents and all that, I see that as what you get with Hersbrucker and Sterling and Strisselspalt. Not so much citrus fruit character as you would expect given the Hallertauer and Opal and other hops used. A small bit of garlic and onion is there as well, which reminds me of Simcoe, and funny enough some descriptors I found online for two of these strains that I’m unfamiliar with mention Simcoe as a substitute. As for diacetyl? Not at all. Perhaps something in this beer varies wildly bottle to bottle but I would not guess diacetyl, and I consider myself very sensitive to it - for me it doesn’t manifest simply as butter, but as rancid foot sweat and popcorn flavoring (which uses diacetyl). It also manifests as an oily solvent-like texture on the palate. I get oiliness in this beer but it’s not solvent-like and there is no rancid character. Instead, guess what, it tastes like a high-gravity pilsner malt beer made with loads and loads of German hops. So maybe the American DIPA drinkers are seeing this German hop character as butter, the thing that I call cheese rind, must, BO, etc. Sweet, medium to full bodied, some pear and white grape-like esters, some bubble gum and pineapple rind and citrus peel show up as it breathes but it’s not pulpy or juicy. At 10% it’s very boozy for me, and the hop acids linger in the mouth while the alcohol burns the throat feeling like acid reflux. I’m not a fan of the hot alcohol or the excessive bitterness, but the aroma and the approach are pretty enjoyable, though I’d take a 5% version at 35 IBU any day over this version. YMMV.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
KyotoLefty (8924) - Kyoto, JAPAN - NOV 2, 2013
Bottled. Interesting noble hop nose, very grassy, orange, bread and caramel. Sweet, malty, bready, grapes, maybe muscat, crackers, interesting. A bit thick, slightly syrupy. Very fruity.

4
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 17/20
marcus (8807) - Sacramento, California, USA - AUG 13, 2013
On tap at City Beer. Pours amber with a thick white head and a citrus aroma. There is a hearty caramel malt flavor that starts sweet then turns more bitter. This is sort of a cross between a DIPA and an imperial pilsner, and it works pretty well. It’s got lots of grapefruit but also plenty of malt flavor.

4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
alexsdad06 (8434) - Ohio, USA - SEP 21, 2015
Draft at Dutch’s (also 22 oz bottle) from backlog notes. Pours a clear orange golden color with a medium sized off white head. The aroma and flavor have big Noble hop character; floral, herbal, grassy, pine with big pilsner malts, caramel, toasted bread, moderate bitterness, medium plus body, good carbonation, this is an interesting imperial pilsner ipa hybrid that was good enough to have more than once.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 16/20
mabel (8353) - Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - DEC 11, 2014
UPDATED: DEC 12, 2014 [6091-20131203] Bottle. Mild grassy pine aroma. Clear, bright light orange body with a quick foamy white head. Bitter grainy citrus flavour has a long aftertaste. Medium body. Good, nice bitter brew. (7/4/8/4/16) 3.9

[6162B-20140131] Bottle. Citrus resin hops aroma. Slightly hazy, pale orange body with a medium-lasting creamy white head. Bitter resiny hops flavour has a grainy grass base. Medium body. Good. (8/3/8/3/15) 3.7
Overheard: "Here’s my monocle."

3.3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 12/20
mR_fr0g (8283) - Hertfordshire, ENGLAND - SEP 14, 2013
Bottle at pre zwanze tasting. Thanks to Bruce? Crystal clear orange golden pour with a frothy white head. Aroma is spicy pine mega Nobel hop. And sileage. Flavour is dirty sileage. Grassy hop.funky orange. Average carbonation. Lingering bitter grassy hop.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 17/20
bb (8269) - Alamo, California, USA - SEP 6, 2013
Bottle. Amber beer with a cream head, Pine and grapefruit aroma. Grapefruit and light tropical fruit flavor with pine. Medium bodied. Very good bitterness. Grapefruit and pine linger with light earth and light tropical fruit.

4
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
douglas88 (8093) - Portland, Oregon, USA - AUG 24, 2013
Bomber from Belmont Station. Pours a clear copper color with a large white head. A sweet fruity hop nose with some honey. Big flavor of German hops, and it noticeably so with deep sweet lemon and honey, very grainy. Frischen Aromen. Ich konnte viel trinken. Vielleicht werde ich. Auf jeden Fall ist es gut. A big fluffy palate. Superbly drinkable.

4.4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 5/5   OVERALL 18/20
Ibrew2or3 (7997) - Tempe, Arizona, USA - SEP 21, 2013
22oz bomber pours with a crystal clear deep gold body that supports a white head of foam. The aroma is . . . hello rich Noble hoppiness. I get floral and dank spicy onion notes as well as earthy grassiness and some sweet candied lime. The taste starts by tossing up a load of rich deep sugary malt sweetened Noble like hops at ya all at once. These are Noble hops at a robustness and smoothness rarely attained, if ever, IMHO. I get floral, lime candy, earthy tea and some smooth dank onions that unleash loads of hop flavor and hop bitterness. Wonderful rich vibrant bitter and flavorful brew. Well executed. Love it.

3.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
blipp (7898) - San Diego, California, USA - SEP 8, 2013
Draft. Pours golden orange with a white head. Grassy, piney, and spicy hops, with some light malty sweetness, and a nice lingering piney hoppy finish. Good stuff.


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