77ships (8104) - Antwerpen, BELGIUM - OCT 14, 2012
4.4 AROMA 9/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 18/20
UPDATED: FEB 23, 2013 bottle sampled - looked like 375 ml. - no label, written name with a magic marker on it @ 19de Nationale Bierhappening: pours a dark brown, black-ish with tanned creamy head, starts out nicely but collapses a bit fast, might be the glass, sample size etc. - smell is very light sweetish roast, rather creamy, very milky milk chocolate, mellow licorice - taste is sweet, very creamy stuff, almost teaspoon cream, roast is light, touch licorice, creamy milk chocolate, light caramel, caramelized sugar, some light herb, toward back, whiskey is there, sweet mellow, caramel, light apple type of stuff, no idea which whiskey they used, reminds me a bit of Connemara BA stuff or perhaps Highland - those are probably wrong guesses but that is a bit how this taste like - body is creamy but not heavy, at least not an impy stout kind of way, this feels more like a stout to me than an imperial one - continuing different, good work from this brewery //// Tried this one again @ BAB 2013 – definitely less exhilarating now compared to the first time I tried it. No longer a 4.4 beer for sure but I will still keep the old score
JorisPPattyn (9472) - Ursel, BELGIUM - FEB 2, 2013
4.2 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 18/20
Draught Fast gone greige head over red-brown shot black beer. Nice whisky & wood nose, and fruity esters mixing with alcoholic features, to a very complex aromaprofile indeed. Taste is blue mold cheese, vinous rather than spirit. Again the character is complex, with many fruity vectors. Backthroar real alcoholheat. Not really full bodied, and a tad undercarbonated. Ends with beautiful long-lasting main flavours. Gives the impression of being based upon Oud Bruin. Excellent try - again. Long, deep, complex beer that is very difficult to catch in words.
Bierridder_S (687) - BELGIUM - DEC 12, 2014
4.1 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 5/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 16/20
29/11/2014 @WBF thanks to Kevin for sharing this
Dark brown with rocky head. Aroma is especially chocolate, some roasted malt. Taste : Chocolate, malt bitterness, oak, very light sour. Nice one
greenclansman (905) - Nicosia, CYPRUS - APR 28, 2013
4 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
Very interesting and nice beer. Dark, malty...with the whiskey taste in presence. Nice smooth fruity aftertaste.
Alengrin (4529) - BELGIUM - FEB 26, 2016
3.9 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 3/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 17/20
From a 37.5 cl ’geuze’ bottle bought at Rotsaert in Zedelgem. Slow gushing but perfectly manageable. Medium thick, pale greyish beige, lacing, moussy and creamy head dissolving slowly in the middle and residing over a hazy, very dark chestnut brown beer but not truly ’black’, with burgundy edges. Aroma seems more evocative of ’oud bruin’ (Flemish red) than stout, but with that in mind, the few ’sour stouts’ I had do spring to mind; I get hints of passion fruit, raw cranberry, walnut, very old red wine, caramel, wet oak, vanilla-like tannins, red apple, cocoa nibs, oloroso sherry or even slight sherry vinegar, blue plum, whisky, baked banana, some vague varnish-like solvents and even a very faint echo of FFF (manure) but nothing disturbing and fading quickly; in fact I find the nose as a whole quite attractive in this one, I guess I had expected more off-flavours. Lots of sourish fruit (redcurrant, apple peel, passion fruit, unripe plum) in the taste with a deeper, subtle dried apricot-like sweetishness buried underneath but matching well with the tartness; softish carbo, fruity esters carrying onwards over a sweetish caramelly but mostly nutty, toastedly bitterish malt backbone - eventually yielding a brief roasted bitter touch, but nothing of the rich dark chocolate or coffee-like bitterness I expect from a beer calling itself a ’stout’. Finishes malty, with the bitterish toastedness continuing well into the throat, balanced by a fairly dry, clearly present but not overwhelming ’oakiness’ including some retronasal tannins (vanilla), vinous and agreeable in terms of body (a bit vinous); very low in hoppiness, hops are merely structural here - again, as in a Flemish red. A warm but subtle glow of whisky-like alcohol (and even flavour) appears all the way at the back, where it belongs, and the drying wine- and sour berry-like tartness, which was there from the beginning, persists longer than anything else. Enjoyable and interesting beer, but way closer to oud bruin than to actual stout; at best and with some goodwill, I guess you could attempt to place this under the - still very underpopulated - ’sour stout’ category (in Belgium represented only by Zwet.be and last year’s Zwanze - but not even Stout Rullquin), but even then it lacks the ’black’, roasted bitterness from the style. I think consumers can be disappointed if they expect a stout here, but, like some other offerings from these enthusiastic young brewers, in terms of ’oud bruin’, this hits the right spot. I would suggest them to up the ante and concentrate on actual ’sour stout’, I have a feeling this hybrid category (not even recognized here) is still in its infancy and has the potential to lead to a whole league of amazing new beers.
goozen (3810) - Leiden, NETHERLANDS - APR 29, 2013
3.8 AROMA 6/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 17/20
Tap at ZBF’13, Leuven: Black coloured brew with an gentle warming mouthfeel taste and hints of roasted malts and vanilla.
KansaiBeerLvrs (4597) - Kyoto, JAPAN - JUN 8, 2014
3.8 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 15/20
7.5% shared by Tadg. A very dark reddish brown, aged in whiskey barrels. Tart sour cherry acetic nose. Med-light bodied, sweet sour and tart - very tasty with cherry & earthy barrel notes. A bit of the peaty character comes through with a touch of chocolate.
shoulderbroken (3755) - Tokyo, JAPAN - JAN 15, 2015
3.8 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 3/5 TASTE 9/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 15/20
Bottle at Cafe Local. Smoke, roast. Taste is great, don’t get the whisky, instead maple syrup. Initial skunk then maple syrup, light spice, ginger, interesting mix.
vincentvega72 (383) - Terneuzen, NETHERLANDS - JAN 23, 2016
3.8 AROMA 7/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 7/10 PALATE 4/5 OVERALL 16/20
Bruin bier met witte schuimkraag die goed aan het glas blijft plakken. Aroma van "herfstbladeren". Smaken van mout, vleugje whiskey. Redelijk veel turf. Ietwat complex. Doet me op bepaalde momenten denken aan een klassieke oud bruin. Deze mannen hebben betere brouwsels.
Beerheart65 (1408) - Pori, FINLAND - FEB 27, 2016
3.8 AROMA 8/10 APPEARANCE 4/5 TASTE 8/10 PALATE 3/5 OVERALL 15/20
Excellent review before me made me stop retasting rest of this. Clear dark brown, dense creamy rocky light brown head, covering but not that sticky lacing. Yup, that’s whiskey all right! And quite alot of it. But that is background and interesting stuff is elsewhere. This really reminds more Flamish red than stout. Aroma is Sweet with ripe dark fruits. From what is pointed before me I do get cranberry, red wine and vinegar, oak, tannin and plum. Rest escape me but my nose is in trainig 😜. Light body, sour, long finish with sour notes, mild carbonation. Is oak here from whisky barrel? Brings quite dry notes here. Well, lots of whisky... I just like my whisky more peaty and drier than this. As it is this is ok and made much more interesting by great remarks by Alengrin. Not exactly what I expected.