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HogTownHarry
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beers 6293 º places 28 º 17:51 Sat 10/13/2012

"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?

 
BenH
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beers 3068 º places 21 º 18:25 Sat 10/13/2012

Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being the only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)

 
tdtm82
beers 1251 º places 108 º 18:25 Sat 10/13/2012

Again, whilst trying Kernel, you ideally HAVE to consume them at the brewery. These beers have sediment issues which is a problem but the best ones are amazing. Iíve had bad Kernel batches and inconsistent Kernel beers but they are intended for quick consumption (apart from the stouts) and should be drunk fresh. If youíve not had them fresh at the brewery then youíre missing out.

 
Leighton
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beers 14361 º places 726 º 01:02 Sun 10/14/2012

Originally posted by BenH
Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being the only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)


 
Theydon_Bois
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beers 12869 º places 853 º 01:03 Sun 10/14/2012

Originally posted by Leighton
Originally posted by BenH
Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being the only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)





Checked my calendar and itís not April the 1st !?!

I guess it must hurt being nearly 400 miles from Kernel HQ !

 
EdKing
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beers 2173 º places 157 º 02:50 Sun 10/14/2012

Originally posted by BenH
Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being the only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)


Iíve travelled to the Japan craft beer scene and America with Kernel beers and the reaction has been very very positive. However, itís the export stouts, breakfast stouts and porters that get the biggest ratings in those places where they already have many pales and IPAs. When I take them they are of course very fresh, so quality is guaranteed.

 
MagicDave6
beers 1 º places 1 º 02:52 Sun 10/14/2012

Iím afraid you are quite simply wrong in this one. You either donít understand what hops are or your getting the beers 4 years out of date.


Originally posted by BenH
Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being t he only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)

 
EdKing
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beers 2173 º places 157 º 03:02 Sun 10/14/2012

Originally posted by BenH
Originally posted by HogTownHarry
"they rarely have the characteristics typical of the hops" ... Um?


As in the beer doesnít usually have the aroma or taste Iíd normally associate with the hops that are in it. Citra ipa and nelson pale ale being the only two exceptions I can think of. They do actually taste of the hops that are in them which is probably why they score better than the others.

You only need to look at how the scores of his beers decline as more non UK raters get their hands on them to see that they are overrated and over hyped by UK raters (particularly Londoners)


Also, canít help noticing that your scores for The Kernel are pretty solid with quite a few 4+ aside from a few lows that seem to relate to yeast sediment which may be to do with how they are getting to you, how they are stored and freshness?

 
Leighton
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beers 14361 º places 726 º 03:24 Sun 10/14/2012

ROFL. Loved the part where he says non-UK drinkers think The Kernel is overrated. Classic!

 
BenH
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beers 3068 º places 21 º 03:30 Sun 10/14/2012

Like I said previously that people have kindly ignored, I think his ipas are usually of a decent standard but only occasionally great. I think his dark beers are much better, I thought the imperial stout was excellent. The point I was making is that they are overrated, not that they are bad. And we do get them fresh here, usually within a 2-3 of weeks of bottling.