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Abrasive clone


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stumpyiliz 212:7
11 lbs german pale ale
2.5 lbs golden promise
1.5 lb Golden Naked Oats
.75 lb Dextrose
.4 lb of CL30

.75oz Citra FWH
1.5 oz Warrior 60
2.25 oz Citra 1 min
2 oz citra DH

This gets me close really close tot he SRM and ABV. 75% BHE.

Any thoughts on exchanging the Dextrose for Brewers Crystals and if so, Slightly raise the Base Grain to compensate for the loss in gravity?

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ContemplateBeer 1432:105
I donít know about the beer, but the thread title is a great name for a death metal band.
1/6/2014 4:23:23 AM

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NobleSquirrel 3437:209
Just use table sugar instead of dextrose. Also, use way more hops.
1/6/2014 5:15:15 PM

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bitbucket 2159:63
Using the googles, I came across this:

Amount Item Type % or IBU

3.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 25.00 %
6.00 lb NB Gold Malt (4.0 SRM) Extract 50.00 %
1.50 lb Naked Golden Oats (10.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
0.50 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 4.17 %

2.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 61.8 IBU
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 34.0 IBU
4.00 oz Citra [11.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Citra [11.00 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 24.9 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [11.00 %] (0 min) Hops -

Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) Yeast-Ale


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.083 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.34 %
Bitterness: 120.7 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 10.1 SRM


But it doesnít look all that fabulous. Iím not so keen on the hop addition schedule (tho itís probably closer than your version), and Iíd prefer a malt bill more like this:
11.00 lb 2-Row
3.00 lb Munich
1.00 lb Flaked Oats
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal 20

I tossed the oats in because you had oats, but I could just as easily yank them out. Anyway, what I have here gets you close on ABV and color. You could ditch one pound of the 2-row and add sugar IF you want to dry it out a bit. Not sure why you want to go with two base malts that typically arenít found ind IIPAs (German pale ale & Golden Promise), since one base malt is all you should need.

Donít fear using table sugar. Itís cheap AND will be just fine for your purpose. Brewers Crystals seem like a waste of time/money.
1/6/2014 9:39:36 PM

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10 lb 2 row
5 lb Golden Promise
.8 lb GNO
.6 lb Crystal 20
.75 corn sugar

FWH 1 oz Citra
1.75 Warrior 60
1.00 Citra 10
3.0 Citra 0 min 30 min hop stand at 200
3.0 Citra 0 min 45 min hop stand at 170
5.0 Citra dry hop 7 days
2.0 Citra keg hop while serving

WLP007
Mash 150 for 75 min

This is the closest I have come to replicating Abrasive. Not exact, but really close and makes a really good beer.
1/6/2014 11:04:47 PM

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1/6/2014 11:29:00 PM

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bitbucket 2159:63
Still seems like a ífussyí malt bill that doesnít accomplish much.
1/7/2014 4:19:19 PM

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CLevar 376:10
Why the H is anyone using citra before about 10 min left in the boil?

Does it honestly give any character early in the boil that canít be achieved other ways? I havenít ever tried, but it intuitively seems like an awful waste to use citra as a bitering hop
1/7/2014 6:58:57 PM

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Originally posted by CLevar
Why the H is anyone using citra before about 10 min left in the boil?

Does it honestly give any character early in the boil that canít be achieved other ways? I havenít ever tried, but it intuitively seems like an awful waste to use citra as a bitering hop

The AA is around 13, so you could do worse. I buy hops by the pound, so once a pound is open, why not? I vacuum-seal all the left-overs into two ounce packets after the first brewday.

Iíve brewed a Zombie Dust Clone several times. All Citra, tastes great. Iíve got it on tap now. Iím getting offers from the neighbors to buy growlers.
1/9/2014 7:18:50 PM

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CLevar 376:10
Originally posted by bitbucket
Originally posted by CLevar
Why the H is anyone using citra before about 10 min left in the boil?

Does it honestly give any character early in the boil that canít be achieved other ways? I havenít ever tried, but it intuitively seems like an awful waste to use citra as a bitering hop

The AA is around 13, so you could do worse. I buy hops by the pound, so once a pound is open, why not? I vacuum-seal all the left-overs into two ounce packets after the first brewday.

Iíve brewed a Zombie Dust Clone several times. All Citra, tastes great. Iíve got it on tap now. Iím getting offers from the neighbors to buy growlers.


Oh, I get that high AA is more efficient for bittering. But why not use something like magnum, and move that oz of citra to a dry hop somewhere?
1/9/2014 8:17:31 PM

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Originally posted by CLevar
Originally posted by bitbucket
Originally posted by CLevar
Why the H is anyone using citra before about 10 min left in the boil?

Does it honestly give any character early in the boil that canít be achieved other ways? I havenít ever tried, but it intuitively seems like an awful waste to use citra as a bitering hop

The AA is around 13, so you could do worse. I buy hops by the pound, so once a pound is open, why not? I vacuum-seal all the left-overs into two ounce packets after the first brewday.

Iíve brewed a Zombie Dust Clone several times. All Citra, tastes great. Iíve got it on tap now. Iím getting offers from the neighbors to buy growlers.


Oh, I get that high AA is more efficient for bittering. But why not use something like magnum, and move that oz of citra to a dry hop somewhere?

Because itís less expensive for me to buy a pound of Citra than to buy a pound of Citra and a pound of Magnum. And once I buy a pound of Magnum, I need to find good uses for most of the pound.

And like I said earlier, once I open a pound I divide it into two-ounce vacuum-sealed bags. Once I open a 2oz bag, I have some incentive to use most of it more or less immediately.

I tend to buy hops once a year, after the harvest is in. Part this is because Iím a cheap bastard, part is because there is no advantage to waiting. Youíll get the 2013 crop whether you buy in November, or in the following April. And if you wait until April youíve probably missed the boat for hops like Citra.
1/10/2014 5:43:27 PM

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