then that blows the argument that the desired outcome is a streamlined, consistent, and accurate database.
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It actually has to do with the fact that if you alias one to the other, you lose the brewer relationship that was there the first time.
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A different barrel will make a big change in a beer. Not just a different brand or a different liquor/wine, but even different barrels or the same substance. Different generations of the same barrel (1st use, 2nd use, etc) will also change a beer significantly. Different amounts of time in the barrel will also have dramatic effects.
I think every different batch of beer should be a new rating!
Who’s with me?
And regarding the English cask/non-cask separation, if the same rules were applied to American beers then Budweiser along with several macros would be separated between bottle and draft.
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btw, I was joking. imo.
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how about you let the people who decide on these matters thousands of times - and know how to make the decision - make the decision. novel idea!
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I would disagree that different barrels will change the beer significantly. Look at the Ola Dubhs, those all taste the same, no matter how old the barrel for each was.
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How about someone layout the "listing policies" that mj referred to in an earlier post. If we really have guidelines for this already, wouldn’t stating them answer many of the questions asked in this thread?
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there is some information in the FAQ regarding cask/dry-hopped and barrel-aged beer listing policies. wet-hopped beers and those which change a secondary ingredient are still being hashed out, and I’ll stop before I say anything that sounds too official, but Oakes has already said that he will consider what the precedents are and make a call accordingly. most (well probably all) reasons for and against separation in cases like this one have been made before by admins in private discussion. generally we have guidelines that make it clear for most cases what is and isn’t a new beer, but because brewers are always trying new things, you can imagine cases where a hard set of rules would not be preferred over a human being with experience in these matters.
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i’m smarter than those people
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well one admins argument last time was that it wasnt commercially available,this time its the "its only a coffee change".
then again,most admins wont be getting any and every admin must be able to rate a beer that will potentially make to the number 1 spot in the top 50.
p.s.
iso of the 12 different beer geek beers that are all in the database.
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