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Another lawsuit over beer names

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Countbeer
beers 5337 º places 234 º 11:11 Thu 3/28/2013

This is so gay! Fuck man, beers are made to enjoy not to sue... (Whereís that cry emoticon?)

 
TheHOFF43
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beers 1791 º places 121 º 11:17 Thu 3/28/2013

Originally posted by Countbeer
This is so gay! Fuck man, beers are made to enjoy not to sue... (Whereís that cry emoticon?)


Please explain how the sexual orientation of this matters

 
Countbeer
beers 5337 º places 234 º 11:56 Thu 3/28/2013

Originally posted by khoffman43
Originally posted by Countbeer
This is so gay! Fuck man, beers are made to enjoy not to sue... (Whereís that cry emoticon?)


Please explain how the sexual orientation of this matters

Nah it doesnít, but it is like Dutch slang..
I donít care about anybodyís sexual orientation, but it is used like this as well just to point out how sad this sue is!

 
after4ever
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beers 6749 º places 251 º 12:01 Thu 3/28/2013

This clearly looks like Lucette tried to ride Lift Bridgeís coattails. This isnít a stupid oversight on their part. Itís deliberate.

Just because someone makes beer for a living doesnít mean theyíre incapable of this sort of thing. They might be nice people otherwise, but, on the merits, this seriously looks like theyíre trying to cash in on Lift Bridgeís hard work building a brand. Not cool.

 
TheHOFF43
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beers 1791 º places 121 º 12:05 Thu 3/28/2013

Lift Bridge isnít a huge place but they are good people (from my experiences visiting their facility) and this is their most popular beer. Not that it is a hugely popular beer, but to lose sales and have that confusion hurts them.

Lucette could have avoided this, it seems intentional on their part.

 
callmemickey
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beers 3703 º places 34 º 12:29 Thu 3/28/2013

Originally posted by GT2

They will win that claim without arbitration, and the other brewery only has to change label and name. Very easy, very low cost involved.





I am not sure what arbitration has to do with it, but yes, it is a fairly straight forward case. Especially since, if the article/Lift Bridge is to be believed, Lucette has taken additional steps to confuse the market since being approached by Lift Bridge.

 
CharmCityCrab
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beers 212 º 14:01 Thu 3/28/2013

Originally posted by CLevar
My main question is this: How many sales (in either direction) resulted from this confusion? In the final analysis, I have a hard time believing that these sales would represent a large portion of the total market.


The article talks about the second brewer in trying to persuade bars to replace tap handles from the original beer to the newer one. My knowledge of the industry is limited, but my understanding is that tap handles represent hard to acquire bar "real estate" and could account for a large volume of sales. Plus, when youíre not staring at a label on a bottle or a can, itís a lot easier to miss that youíre actually drinking a different beer thatís brewed in a similar way with a similar name, especially if the bartender is "in on" trying to create that confusion (Youíd imagine with a switch from one to the other, the bartenders might just wind up serving up the newer beer whenever anyone asked for either one of them, and if someone noticed a different name on the handle say "Itís basically the same thing.).

If there wasnít much money at stake here, I doubt the newer brewer would have bothered copying the name in the first place. It wouldnít be worth the potential legal consequences. And they certainly wouldnít have refused to make changes when the original brewery contacted them and tried to talk- why risk a law suit over something thatís not making you what you consider significant money? I mean, itís probably not much money for larger brewers, but it might be make or break for these two microbreweries.

The original brewery did the hard work of establishing itís branding and a customer base. The second brewery tried to steal them through stealth and deception. The second brewery has every right to try to win those beer drinkers over from the original brewerís product, but it needs to do it fairly, with no intentionally confusing names or labeling. Name your beer something completely different with a distinctive label and go to work.

 
CLevar
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places 16 º 15:24 Thu 3/28/2013

Originally posted by CharmCityCrab
Originally posted by CLevar
My main question is this: How many sales (in either direction) resulted from this confusion? In the final analysis, I have a hard time believing that these sales would represent a large portion of the total market.


The article talks about the second brewer in trying to persuade bars to replace tap handles from the original beer to the newer one. My knowledge of the industry is limited, but my understanding is that tap handles represent hard to acquire bar "real estate" and could account for a large volume of sales. Plus, when youíre not staring at a label on a bottle or a can, itís a lot easier to miss that youíre actually drinking a different beer thatís brewed in a similar way with a similar name, especially if the bartender is "in on" trying to create that confusion (Youíd imagine with a switch from one to the other, the bartenders might just wind up serving up the newer beer whenever anyone asked for either one of them, and if someone noticed a different name on the handle say "Itís basically the same thing.).



Sure, but thatís not on the consumer, but on the establishment that decides to make that move. If a bar wants to sell a similar beer, marketed to a similar audience, with a similar name, fine. I can see why it would be a good thing for that bar (at least in the short term) if they were able to get the beer on tap for a lower price, and sell it at the same price as the previous beer.