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Arrogant Bastard Clone. . . Sort of


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Steve_0 2542:104
Ok guys, I want to brew an arrogant bastard-type beer or India Red Ale, if you will for the holidays. It doesnít have to be an exact replica, just want it to be somewhat similar, or in the same style. I have done a little research and found/came-up with a couple recipes.



Please take a look and let me know what you would change for each of them and which one you think would be best. Also, I am an extract brewer (havenít made the jump to AG) and all of the recipes will be dry-hopped after primary fermentation for 7-14 days. Here they are:

Recipe 1

Batch Size: 5 gal

OG: 1.080

FG: 1.018

9lbs Briess Golden Light DME (90%) - 4lbs early, 5lbs late addition

1.5 lb Special B (10%)

1 oz Chinook (60)

1 oz Chinook (30)

1 oz Chinook (15)

1 oz Chinook (flameout)

2 units Irish Ale yeastYeast

1 Whirfloc tablet



Recipe 2

Batch Size: 5 gal

OG: 1.080

FG: 1.020

3.00 lb Amber D.M.E.

0.50 lb Belgian Special "B"

0.50 lb Belgian aromatic malt

0.50 lb Belgian biscuit

0.50 lb CaraMunich

5.00 lb Light D.M.E.

0.30 lb Pale Chocolate

1.00 oz Chinook(75 minutes)

1.50 oz Chinook(45 minutes)

1.00 oz Chinook(20 Minutes)

1.00 oz Chinook(flameout)

2 units Irish Ale Yeast

1 Whirfloc tablet



Probably going to dry-hop with Simcoe, as I have quite a bit leftover from a previous brew. Let me know what you guys think or what you would change.



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Cobra 1100:24
By the way, Stone brewing has the recipe for Arrogant Bastard on their website. At least they used to.
11/13/2012 8:47:51 AM

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NobleSquirrel 3437:209
Iíd never use 1.5lbs of Special B in a beer, much less a hoppy one. Also, the best way to brew with extract is to use the palest extract you can and then use Specialty malts to do the rest. Itís the most fermentable and gives you the most control, imo.
11/13/2012 12:08:19 PM

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Steve_0 2542:104
I only used 0.5 lbs of Special B and I had brewed it before without any issues, but I appreciate the input, I will take it into consideration.
11/13/2012 12:10:31 PM

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NobleSquirrel 3437:209
Originally posted by Steve_0
I only used 0.5 lbs of Special B and I had brewed it before without any issues, but I appreciate the input, I will take it into consideration.


Yeah, just was thinking that using 300% as much would make this a really not good beer. But thatís just my opinion.
11/13/2012 1:50:21 PM

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t0rin0 62:1315
Originally posted by Cobra
By the way, Stone brewing has the recipe for Arrogant Bastard on their website. At least they used to.


I doubt that.
11/14/2012 8:34:00 AM

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Quasimodo 217:
Arrogant Bastard is a recipe Stone wonít reveal. They are quite generous with some of their other recipes.
11/14/2012 8:48:59 AM

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Unclerudy 12:3
Lots of chinook. And if you want to do an Oaked Arrogant Bastard clone, they use light toasted American oak chips. But for the recipe, when I was at Stone last year, they told us Arrogant Bastard only had 2 types of grains in it. And I saw lots of Muntons bags everywhere, but I didnít get the chance to see which Crystal malt they had on hand.
11/14/2012 9:46:51 AM

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Steve_0 2542:104
So which recipe would everyone here use? And does everyone think 1.5lbs of Special B, as listed in the first recipe, is too much?
11/14/2012 10:31:53 AM

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Quasimodo 217:
1.5 pounds of special B is waaaaay too much special B. 8oz provides a relatively strong raisin flavor. I could not imagine 3x that amount. Iím not sure they use special B at all. Itís been a long time since I had AB, but I donít recall it tasting like raisins. Does it?
11/14/2012 10:40:21 AM

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Unclerudy 12:3
Probably just use some Crystal 80.
11/14/2012 10:44:46 AM

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