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Californiaís Caffeinated Beer Ban Signed Into Law


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CharmCityCrab 155:
Takes effect January 1.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/02/california-caffeinated-beer-ban_n_916192.html

Sounds like it includes coffee beers and the like (with natural sources of caffeine rather than artificially added caffeine), based on some of the examples it gives in the article, though the article doesnít explicitly say that it does.
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Savvy1982 1705:70
What a bunch of nonsensical, well-intentioned garbage.

Because 4 Loko isnít going to switch to Guarana or some other "stay awake" ingredient for the California market.

Then again, nothing says that Speedway etc. couldnít be made with decaffienated coffee.
8/2/2011 10:53:24 AM

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DaSilky1 2606:66
Someone needs to violate that ban and challenge the shit out of it. Peter Zien used to be a lawyer, so I nominate Alesmith.
8/2/2011 11:01:22 AM

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Phischy 1:57
Speedway and Victory-at-Sea. Damn.

Better start stocking up.
8/2/2011 11:02:02 AM

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daknole 9437:400
No more speedway in CA? Is this for real?
8/2/2011 11:03:00 AM

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WesKBob 563:20
Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didnít even bother to read what the bill says.

Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient."

FWIW, hereís a link to the text of the new law.

Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK.
8/2/2011 11:06:05 AM

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pepsican 1451:53
Lame. Bring back caffeined four loko.
8/2/2011 11:07:47 AM

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joet 2218:93
yikes
8/2/2011 11:34:03 AM

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joet 2218:93
Originally posted by WesKBob
Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didnít even bother to read what the bill says.

Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient."

FWIW, hereís a link to the text of the new law.

Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK.


really?

To me that reads as Speedway Stout for instance being proscribed by this bill for adding caffeine as a separate ingredient in the form of espresso.

If the language were to be unambiguous, it should have read "alcoholic beverages to which caffeine in a purified form has been added". "A separate ingredient" can still mean coffee, cocoa, etc. to any lawyer worth his salt.

Can you imagine if the same interpretation were allowed for the active agent in marijuana? "Well hey, we didnít add THC as a separate ingredient, we just added cannabis and the THC got there incidentally."

What if MSG were outlawed? "Well we just added autolyzed yeast as a separate ingredient. The MSG got there incidentally."


Something tells me this may fly as optimists suggest.
8/2/2011 11:46:15 AM

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NobleSquirrel 3437:209
Am I the only one annoyed that they are referring to Four Loko as beer?
8/2/2011 12:33:03 PM

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NobleSquirrel 3437:209
Also, the article has been "corrected."
8/2/2011 12:33:51 PM

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