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Californiaís Caffeinated Beer Ban Signed Into Law

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CharmCityCrab
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beers 211 º 10:45 Tue 8/2/2011

Takes effect January 1.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/02/california-caffeinated-beer-ban_n_916192.html

Sounds like it includes coffee beers and the like (with natural sources of caffeine rather than artificially added caffeine), based on some of the examples it gives in the article, though the article doesnít explicitly say that it does.

 
Savvy1982
beers 1705 º places 70 º 10:53 Tue 8/2/2011

What a bunch of nonsensical, well-intentioned garbage.

Because 4 Loko isnít going to switch to Guarana or some other "stay awake" ingredient for the California market.

Then again, nothing says that Speedway etc. couldnít be made with decaffienated coffee.

 
DaSilky1
beers 2606 º places 66 º 11:01 Tue 8/2/2011

Someone needs to violate that ban and challenge the shit out of it. Peter Zien used to be a lawyer, so I nominate Alesmith.

 
Phischy
beers 1 º places 57 º 11:02 Tue 8/2/2011

Speedway and Victory-at-Sea. Damn.

Better start stocking up.

 
daknole
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beers 10320 º places 447 º 11:03 Tue 8/2/2011

No more speedway in CA? Is this for real?

 
WesKBob
beers 563 º places 20 º 11:06 Tue 8/2/2011

Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didnít even bother to read what the bill says.

Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient."

FWIW, hereís a link to the text of the new law.

Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK.

 
DietPepsican
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beers 1532 º places 56 º 11:07 Tue 8/2/2011

Lame. Bring back caffeined four loko.

 
joet
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beers 2408 º places 100 º 11:34 Tue 8/2/2011

yikes

 
joet
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beers 2408 º places 100 º 11:46 Tue 8/2/2011

Originally posted by WesKBob
Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didnít even bother to read what the bill says.

Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient."

FWIW, hereís a link to the text of the new law.

Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK.


really?

To me that reads as Speedway Stout for instance being proscribed by this bill for adding caffeine as a separate ingredient in the form of espresso.

If the language were to be unambiguous, it should have read "alcoholic beverages to which caffeine in a purified form has been added". "A separate ingredient" can still mean coffee, cocoa, etc. to any lawyer worth his salt.

Can you imagine if the same interpretation were allowed for the active agent in marijuana? "Well hey, we didnít add THC as a separate ingredient, we just added cannabis and the THC got there incidentally."

What if MSG were outlawed? "Well we just added autolyzed yeast as a separate ingredient. The MSG got there incidentally."


Something tells me this may fly as optimists suggest.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 12:33 Tue 8/2/2011

Am I the only one annoyed that they are referring to Four Loko as beer?

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 12:33 Tue 8/2/2011

Also, the article has been "corrected."