Change in top 50.

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RasmusOtt
beers 3396 º places 11 º 04:28 Mon 4/20/2015

Does anyone know what have changed in the weighting avg? a lot of beers that I keep an eye on (with few ratings) just got a huge boost and quite a few bumped into the top50.

Cheers

- Rasmus

 
kermis
beers 18395 º places 748 º 05:42 Mon 4/20/2015

Whatever has changed in the algorithm seems to have removed a weighting on the number of ratings, allowing "latest hype" beers to get to very high positions with very few ratings. This seems to me to detract from the validity of the top rankings and will almost certainly result in a bunch of highly rated one off festival releases or whatever taking higher spots than proven classics.

There’s already been some discussion about kbbs being number 1 with only 90 odd ratings, but this change (or bug perhaps) is swinging things far more in that direction.

 
Danko
05:56 Mon 4/20/2015

Without going into detail. Not removed any weighing, merely a slight sensitivity adjust after a lot of analyzation across the database. Expect things to even out over time.

 
Maakun
beers 10309 º places 319 º 06:39 Mon 4/20/2015

Originally posted by kermis
Whatever has changed in the algorithm seems to have removed a weighting on the number of ratings, allowing "latest hype" beers to get to very high positions with very few ratings.


Yeah, the lowest one now has only 23 ratings...

 
joeneugs
beers 6372 º places 240 º 06:54 Mon 4/20/2015

14% of the top 50 are Alesmith Speedway Stout variations.

 
WillRunForBeer
beers 2859 º places 24 º 07:20 Mon 4/20/2015

Really? You changed the algorythm behind the top (2)50? As someone who had set a personal goal of rating 125 of the top 250, that really sucks. The top rated beers were enough of a moving target without any changes in the rules. Couldn’t the top (2)50 stat be left alone and a new stat be added to satisfy whatever this is all about?!?

 
rane
beers 1325 º places 5 º 07:38 Mon 4/20/2015

Then we are back to how it was 6 - 8 years ago. E.g. this one was inside top 50 before ratings levelled the scores out, and thats going to happen again.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/amager-danish-beerhouse-barrel-aged-series-imperial-stout/85452/

 
hawthorne00
beers 8444 º places 63 º 07:48 Mon 4/20/2015

A quick calculation for the one with the lowest ratings suggests m is 3.26675, pretty quick convergence.

 
markextrae
beers 4790 º places 77 º 08:18 Mon 4/20/2015

what the... how is this even possible. imperial stout top 50 list.

#46 : AleSmith Speedway Stout - Brewer’s Blend with Vietnamese Coffee
only from draft last year, how can this be in a recent top 50 list??

#45 : Founders Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout
last rating june 2014, never bottled.

#43 : Voodoo Black Magick (Pappy Van Winkle)
last ratings august 2014 and only 26 ratings and such a low bottle count.

#40 : Toppling Goliath SR-71
released 1 month ago, and allready in the top 50 list??



#25 : AleSmith Speedway Stout - Vanilla & Coconut

never bottled, 20+ ratings, made last year only from draft at alesmith

makes no sense at all

 
RasmusOtt
beers 3396 º places 11 º 08:58 Mon 4/20/2015

Originally posted by markextrae
what the... how is this even possible. imperial stout top 50 list.

#46 : AleSmith Speedway Stout - Brewer’s Blend with Vietnamese Coffee
only from draft last year, how can this be in a recent top 50 list??

#45 : Founders Bourbon Barrel Imperial Stout
last rating june 2014, never bottled.

#43 : Voodoo Black Magick (Pappy Van Winkle)
last ratings august 2014 and only 26 ratings and such a low bottle count.

#40 : Toppling Goliath SR-71
released 1 month ago, and allready in the top 50 list??



#25 : AleSmith Speedway Stout - Vanilla & Coconut

never bottled, 20+ ratings, made last year only from draft at alesmith

makes no sense at all




Of those you mentioned I only see Alesmith vanilla coconut?

1. It’s not Alesmith Brewers blend - It’s the Alesmith Vietnamese aged in bourbon barrels.

2. Founders bourbon barrel imperial stout is 4,13 and not close to being at the top 50 which now starts at 4,17

3. Voodoo black magic pappy is neither there. 4,13 in average?

4. SR-71 is 4,15 which is close but not enough yet.

Are we seeing different things here or did you mix some of them up? :)

 
RasmusOtt
beers 3396 º places 11 º 09:02 Mon 4/20/2015

EDIT: SR-71 is 4,15 and not 5,15 ofc. haha :D