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Collaboration = overpriced


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17thfloor 2300:18
Originally posted by glennc

As a brewer who’s always in for some collaboration, I couldn’t agree more. I can and will not speak for others, but we always try to set a honoust price on all our beers.
Collaboration does bring some extra costs, and I’m not talking about travelling costs. But the overall point is, if a beer is overpriced in your opinion OldStyleCubFan, don’t buy it. IMO a lot of cheap beers are overpriced as well. Hell, some should be given for free, and even then I would need to think about wether to drink them or not.

Craftbrewers do collaborate to limit costs, but they can do that without making a collaboration-brew or telling the whole world. It can only be done local as well, there is no point in collaborating with say Brewdog to get cheaper grains. We could collaborate by eg exchaning barrels or something. This kind of collaboration does happen, but often no one beside the brewers involved knows about this.

I have learnt a lot by collaborating with other craft brewers, and I hope they learnt something from me too. And even if not, we can only hope a good brew and a longlasting friendship are the result of any collaboration.

Cheers,

Glenn c


speaking of collaboration...
12/1/2009 9:44:59 AM

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Originally posted by glennc
Originally posted by tarheels86
I’m a huge sucker for collaboratives. Some are disappointing. Some are fantastic: avery/russian river collaboration, stone/nogne o/jolly pumpkin holiday ale. Almost all the mikkeller beer we hold dear to our hearts like weasel are all collaborations. The upcoming cigar city and the bruery should be outstanding. They are more expensive, but the overall purpose is not to create more expensive beer for the hell of it. The extra price is what we are willing to pay to see experts from around the world work together and share secrets in order to make the craft beer movement push forward on a macro level. It gives me great pleasure to see people working together rather than suing each other. Sam Adams and other macros would never do a collaboration even though they have hundreds of people on staff that claim to know everything about beer.


As a brewer who’s always in for some collaboration, I couldn’t agree more. I can and will not speak for others, but we always try to set a honoust price on all our beers.
Collaboration does bring some extra costs, and I’m not talking about travelling costs. But the overall point is, if a beer is overpriced in your opinion OldStyleCubFan, don’t buy it. IMO a lot of cheap beers are overpriced as well. Hell, some should be given for free, and even then I would need to think about wether to drink them or not.

Craftbrewers do collaborate to limit costs, but they can do that without making a collaboration-brew or telling the whole world. It can only be done local as well, there is no point in collaborating with say Brewdog to get cheaper grains. We could collaborate by eg exchaning barrels or something. This kind of collaboration does happen, but often no one beside the brewers involved knows about this.

I have learnt a lot by collaborating with other craft brewers, and I hope they learnt something from me too. And even if not, we can only hope a good brew and a longlasting friendship are the result of any collaboration.

Cheers,

Glenn c


So if I find myself in Belgium anytime soon wanna brew a beer?
12/1/2009 9:54:27 AM

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Suttree 3920:120
"Alvinne/Duck Rabbit Reasonably Priced Stout" 12/1/2009 10:32:12 AM

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wavers1 859:39
some of the prices on them make sense to me, but for a beer brewed at stone in socal(imperial coconut porter), $6 a 12oz from that facility seems a lil steep. but i am only bitching cause i wanna drink a lot of that brew, and at $36 a 6’er i can’t actually do that. but i do realize that macadamia nuts do cost a lot. 12/1/2009 10:54:24 AM

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CanIHave4Beers 2088:69
Originally posted by Suttree
"Alvinne/Fanø Reasonably Priced Stout"


Fixed it for you!
12/1/2009 11:15:46 AM

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Drake 5223:295
Originally posted by Suttree
"Alvinne/Duck Rabbit Reasonably Priced Stout"




It truly is about the market. There’s a lot of beer I won’t buy because of the cost, but clearly there are enough people that will buy beer in that price range to support the market. If people get tired of paying those prices prices will come down and at some point breweries will have to decide whether it’s worth it to continue the collaborations.
12/1/2009 11:18:58 AM

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absolutesites 2:
Originally posted by dkachur
Originally posted by Suttree
"Alvinne/Duck Rabbit Reasonably Priced Stout"




It truly is about the market. There’s a lot of beer I won’t buy because of the cost, but clearly there are enough people that will buy beer in that price range to support the market. If people get tired of paying those prices prices will come down and at some point breweries will have to decide whether it’s worth it to continue the collaborations.


Private clubs are the new collaboration.

Which was the new barrel aged.

Which was the new imperial.

12/1/2009 1:53:13 PM

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kryptic
Originally posted by absolutesites
Private clubs are the new collaboration.


Gotta love those interest-free business loans.
12/1/2009 1:57:34 PM

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fidelis83 1342:15
Originally posted by tarheels86
I’m a huge sucker for collaboratives. Some are disappointing. Some are fantastic: avery/russian river collaboration, stone/nogne o/jolly pumpkin holiday ale. Almost all the mikkeller beer we hold dear to our hearts like weasel are all collaborations. The upcoming cigar city and the bruery should be outstanding. They are more expensive, but the overall purpose is not to create more expensive beer for the hell of it. The extra price is what we are willing to pay to see experts from around the world work together and share secrets in order to make the craft beer movement push forward on a macro level. It gives me great pleasure to see people working together rather than suing each other. Sam Adams and other macros would never do a collaboration even though they have hundreds of people on staff that claim to know everything about beer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=125904
12/1/2009 4:09:37 PM

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GT2 3942:196
Originally posted by fidelis83
Originally posted by tarheels86
I’m a huge sucker for collaboratives. Some are disappointing. Some are fantastic: avery/russian river collaboration, stone/nogne o/jolly pumpkin holiday ale. Almost all the mikkeller beer we hold dear to our hearts like weasel are all collaborations. The upcoming cigar city and the bruery should be outstanding. They are more expensive, but the overall purpose is not to create more expensive beer for the hell of it. The extra price is what we are willing to pay to see experts from around the world work together and share secrets in order to make the craft beer movement push forward on a macro level. It gives me great pleasure to see people working together rather than suing each other. Sam Adams and other macros would never do a collaboration even though they have hundreds of people on staff that claim to know everything about beer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=125904


True. But it doesn’t exist yet. And that match up is strange IMO. And they’ve been working on it for two years???
12/1/2009 7:08:51 PM

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