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Consecration batch 1 vs. batch 2


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Odeed 1666:14
damn i and i have two bottles of batch 1.might be time to drink or trade them soon. 7/2/2009 3:43:39 PM

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Phillies2008Champs 26:3
Originally posted by TAR
Originally posted by Phillies2008Champs

God Bless America!



But what about the rest of the planet?


My reference to God Bless America is frequently used on Independence Day which is observed on July 4th. It is a big deal here and since our country was founded on JudeoChristian beliefs it is appropriate. Additionally, I think it is appropriate as Russian River is an American brewery which makes some of the best sours in the world. God Bless every one.


7/3/2009 12:05:58 PM

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LtDan 470:24
Originally posted by cquiroga
And by the way, I don’t think this beer will necessarily age all that well. I mean, I’m stupid enough that I’m definitely going to age some of it ANYWAY, but I think the Batch 1 bottles have gotten worse in some respects (the "footiness") and better in other respects (the flavors are much better melded now than when fresh), but are overall just not hugely improved, and the Batch 2 stuff is so damn good now, and probably would only go a year or two before starting to get too soft or starting to show oxidation. Its flavors are more subtle than Batch 1, and the subtlety could turn into muddled flabbiness if it doesn’t age well (ahem, a la many of the bottles of Toronado 20th I’ve had at different times).


I don’t have a time machine, but I will take Russian River’s word for it, when they suggest to age it for a few years. The first batch is only 5/6 months old for Christ’s sake.
7/3/2009 12:44:23 PM

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wavers1 110:28
i heard that chris columbus found nothing but natives living here,
we killed them all then senselessly celebrated out thanksgiving here.

and now we can eat the flesh and sip the blood of christ,
connect with the divine in our backyard, for a fairly small pricecheers!
7/3/2009 12:48:54 PM

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wavers1 110:28
Originally posted by LtDan
Originally posted by cquiroga
And by the way, I don’t think this beer will necessarily age all that well. I mean, I’m stupid enough that I’m definitely going to age some of it ANYWAY, but I think the Batch 1 bottles have gotten worse in some respects (the "footiness") and better in other respects (the flavors are much better melded now than when fresh), but are overall just not hugely improved, and the Batch 2 stuff is so damn good now, and probably would only go a year or two before starting to get too soft or starting to show oxidation. Its flavors are more subtle than Batch 1, and the subtlety could turn into muddled flabbiness if it doesn’t age well (ahem, a la many of the bottles of Toronado 20th I’ve had at different times).


I don’t have a time machine, but I will take Russian River’s word for it, when they suggest to age it for a few years. The first batch is only 5/6 months old for Christ’s sake.


really? the second batch hit whole foods 2/3 months ago. seems like batch one must be a lil older than that.
7/3/2009 1:00:55 PM

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cquiroga 370:11
Originally posted by LtDan
Originally posted by cquiroga
And by the way, I don’t think this beer will necessarily age all that well. I mean, I’m stupid enough that I’m definitely going to age some of it ANYWAY, but I think the Batch 1 bottles have gotten worse in some respects (the "footiness") and better in other respects (the flavors are much better melded now than when fresh), but are overall just not hugely improved, and the Batch 2 stuff is so damn good now, and probably would only go a year or two before starting to get too soft or starting to show oxidation. Its flavors are more subtle than Batch 1, and the subtlety could turn into muddled flabbiness if it doesn’t age well (ahem, a la many of the bottles of Toronado 20th I’ve had at different times).


I don’t have a time machine, but I will take Russian River’s word for it, when they suggest to age it for a few years. The first batch is only 5/6 months old for Christ’s sake.


Where did they SUGGEST to age it for a few years? The only information I’ve seen that could be interpreted as an aging recommendation is on the bottle directly, in the form of the "hour glasses" on the side of each bottle, in the same box where the batch number is. And this beer has THREE hour glasses, which indicates that they think it can be aged for up to three years.

But that doesn’t mean they are suggesting you WAIT 3 years before drinking it, or that it would be better after 3 years than it is now, or any of that. I take this to mean that they specifically DO NOT think this beer should be aged 4 years or 5 years, like they have indicated with some of the other beers (Beatification, Temptation, Supplication). So unless I’m misconstruing the whole point of their hour glass notation system (and I don’t think I am), I think even the folks at Russian River would tell you that they wouldn’t feel comfortable aging this beer as long as some of their other ones.
7/3/2009 1:12:25 PM

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502Flavors 617:37
Originally posted by 502Flavors
Originally posted by TheCheeseMan
Originally posted by Beerlando
I read somewhere that Vinnie thinks Batch 2 is better, and that Batch 3 (currently in barrels) will be the best of the bunch.

Personally, I’ve only tried Batch 1 when it was very young. While it was very good, I though it could use some time.

P.S. I have several Batch 1 bottles but none of the Batch 2. If anyone wants to swap out a Batch 2 for a Batch 1, let me know.


Batch 2 should be in my possession next week. cheers!


Same cheers!


Doubt it now... since FedEx broke my package!!! unamused
7/3/2009 1:38:14 PM

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TAR 2087:25
I’m listening to Trouble In Dreams by Destroyer right now before I get in the shower. What a fine, tasteful arrangement of music. And Consecration has too much alcohol, dag gone it. 7/4/2009 1:49:41 AM

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TAR 2087:25
Originally posted by Phillies2008Champs
Originally posted by TAR
Originally posted by Phillies2008Champs

God Bless America!



But what about the rest of the planet?


My reference to God Bless America is frequently used on Independence Day which is observed on July 4th. It is a big deal here and since our country was founded on JudeoChristian beliefs it is appropriate. Additionally, I think it is appropriate as Russian River is an American brewery which makes some of the best sours in the world. God Bless every one.




I don’t think my point was clearly conveyed. Even if God, himself, founded this country, he would still undoubtedly want the entire world to feel and celebrate the wonders of blessings...no? We should probably reserve the remainder of this conversation for Monkey.
7/4/2009 1:55:54 AM

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wavers1 110:28
Originally posted by TAR
Even if God, himself, founded this country


god himself is the founder of this country, can’t you tell?

plus that’s where the phrase ’one nation under god’ comes from. he’s more like a dictator.
7/4/2009 3:08:34 AM

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