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Cycling. Bamberg; Salzburg, Rothenburg; Cologne


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harrisoni 13597:21
I promised some feedback on all this some weeks ago and failed to post. However, as the only other thing I need to do over the next hour is iron shirts for the upcoming week at work, I might as well get on with it.

Iíll say what I did, give a few hints and pointers and some links. I hope some may be useful for future travellers.

My week of complete over indulgence went a bit like this

Thursday
Eurostar Ashford Intl to Brussels. I used my Avios (ex-Airmiles), 8000 points and £10 for a return ticket coming back a week later. A good deal I thought.
I put my bag in the left luggage at Brussels Midi which is Ä3 for a standard sized airline handluggage suitcase and walked to Cantillon
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=861
for the tour and a bottle of 50degrees North which was wonderful and a chat with Jean.
Back to Brussels Midi and the Thalys to Koln. I booked all my train journeys from Belgium into Germany and back on here
http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/index.shtml
English language, you have to create an account after that itís all pretty self explanatory. Tickets can be printed off on a printer or sent to you by mail. If you print them, take the payment card you used as you have to present the card with the printed ticket onboard the trains.
In Koln I stayed at Cristall Hotel cos itís 10 mins walk from the station and it was quiet, helpful staff and breakfast was good.
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/cristalldesign.en.html?aid=311076;label=hotel-60737-de-YTW031FJa1eETm9tSVE9AQS11106856020:pl:ta:p1:p2:ac705900:ap1t1:nes;ws=&gclid=COPUoLu56LcCFVHMtAodo0IA_g
I then bought a U Bahn all day ticket around Koln and did
Paffgen - good
Muhlen - worth doing
Gilden - not great
Pfaffen - good
Sion - not great
Fruh - fantastic
Gaffel Haus - a proper pub
Schreckenskammer - felt like a local pub good.
6/16/2013 4:20:47 AM

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harrisoni 13597:21
Friday
ICE train down to Frankfurt from Koln (just over an hour on the fast ICE train), change for train to Wurzburg (an hour) and change again for train to Bamberg (again nearly an hour)

My first stop was here

http://www.bamberg.info/en/service/wir_ueber_uns/

to get a free booklet on cycle routes round Bamberg, invaluable, go and get one if you are cycling

I stayed here at Alt Ringlein

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID427

for 3 reasons, it was ok price £50 a night bed and breakfast for a single person, itís right opposite Schlenkerla in the old town, they had an underground car park to put my bike. Down sides is that it can be noisy at weekends as you are opposite Schlenkerla and also the church bells in the morning wake you up.

I then went to Spezial Keller
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=6319
Where I had three Ungespundets. That is an amazing beer
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/spezial-ungespundet/17671/

Keesman for the Herren Pils
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=1825

Mahrs for their Ungespundet, get it in the evening, inside the pub, fresh from the wooden barrel. So much better than just from the keg.
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=1826

I ate at Spezialís town centre pub
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=1823

Then Eulenspiegel for the best St Georgen Brau Pils in Bamberg, itís a little pricey for Bamberg and a smaller serving, but worth it.
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=6322

And then a nightcap at Schlenkerla
6/16/2013 4:29:59 AM

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harrisoni 13597:21
Saturday

Iíd pre booked my bike from here

http://www.fahrradhaus-griesmann.de/

Ä9.50 per day for a tourer with a lock and helmet

I then followed the canal all the way down to Stullendorf and then on the roads down to Eggolsheim. Pretty easy and cycling in Germany is good, with plenty of cycle lanes, good roads and understanding drivers.

You could always put the bike on the train as a child ticket or get a return trip, buy a "TagesticketPlus", a day ticket plus, which enables you unlimited travel within the particular zone you specify for 1-2 adults with 2 bikes from here

http://www.vgn.de/

Zone 4 seemed the right one, but no one checked my train tickets in and around Bamberg all weekend.

Cycled through Schlammerdorf finding the Witzgall Keller on the left hand side in the woods even though on google maps it shows on the right hand side and on this site too. Opens later in the afternoon on weekends only. Up through Trailsdorf to Hallerndorf, out the other side and then turned up hill to the Kreuzberg kellers

I had a great time here. Yes itís geared up for families with a childrenís play area, food and beer, but I enjoyed my bratwurst and sauerkraut and 3 beers, before doing Lieberth and Rittmayer. Happy few hours staring at trees drinking excellent kellerbiers. The Kreuzberg list is a little more experimental in beer styles.
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=34379
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=34379
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=34380
http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=19823

Then cycled down to Roppelt which is the best in my opinion. Do not miss this one

And then finished with Witzgall keller before cycling back to Eggolsheim and the train

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=19639

The landbier at Witzgall is NOT TO BE MISSED. Seriously itís that good.
6/16/2013 4:47:03 AM

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harrisoni 13597:21
Sunday
Cycle from Bamberg up to Strassgiech to get there for 11.00 for this

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=20180

Andy Ganstaller is a most a generous and lovely host

Then the route as per Erlangernick as above to Geisfeld, yes itís a little hilly but nothing desperately tough for anyone who can cycle 20 miles in the day on a regular basis for

http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/brauerei-krug-geisfeld/6177/
http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/brauerei-griess/4159/
Keller bier is excellent at Griess try to time it for the Keller being open

Rossdorf am forst
http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/brauerei-sauer-rossdorf/4161/
Lovely little place this

And Stullendorf for

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=36087

I then cycled down to Buttenheim to meet Erlangernick here

http://www.ratebeer.com/p/sankt-georgen-brau/5979/

and we went here

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=35005

Then bike on train back to Bamberg on the same TagesticketPlus

6/16/2013 4:58:39 AM

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harrisoni 13597:21
Monday I went here

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=5981

Again cycling down from Bamberg and then bike on train back to Bamberg for Cafť Abseits.

Great times.

Tuesday was train back to Brussels for all itís goodies which are covered elsewhere.
6/16/2013 4:59:56 AM

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Erlangernick 1:2
Originally posted by harrisoni

Cycled through Schlammerdorf finding the Witzgall Keller on the left hand side in the woods even though on google maps it shows on the right hand side and on this site too.

NŲ, the map shows it on the correct side of the road, the SW side. At least it does right now. Must be something you Englšnder(s) struggle with, this left and right side of the road business.

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And then finished with Witzgall keller before cycling back to Eggolsheim and the train

http://www.ratebeer.com/Places/ShowPlace.asp?PlaceID=19639

The landbier at Witzgall is NOT TO BE MISSED. Seriously itís that good.


Yes, this year especially, itís just a bit ...erm... richer than it has been in the previous couple of years. This is the gravity-pour barrel Landbier served ONLY AT THE KELLER, not the stuff at the Brauerei, FWIW. Sat, Sun, holidays from 14.00, May - Sep.
6/17/2013 1:03:31 AM

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Dedollewaitor 13803:358
In 19 days I will be drinking multiple seidlas of that beer . . Canít wait!
6/17/2013 1:30:53 AM

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3fourths 7977:1270
Originally posted by Erlangernick
NŲ, the map shows it on the correct side of the road, the SW side. At least it does right now.



the keller was marked in the wrong location prior to Ianís visit and my own last month. I corrected the location about two weeks ago.
6/17/2013 11:30:35 AM

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harrisoni 13597:21
Originally posted by 3fourths
Originally posted by Erlangernick
NŲ, the map shows it on the correct side of the road, the SW side. At least it does right now.



the keller was marked in the wrong location prior to Ianís visit and my own last month. I corrected the location about two weeks ago.


Thanks for that, I knew I wasnít going mad.
6/17/2013 1:05:31 PM

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JoeinDahlem 1325:279
I will be doing some of this in August. But instead of cycling I think I will find a pregnant German woman to drive me around.
6/17/2013 3:29:06 PM

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