Not seeing this yet, locally here in Salem. The brewers that have opened in the last couple of years seem to be doing the basics first OK |
If the goal is to have nothing but flawless, world-class beer produced in the U.S., I guess it’s a problem. |
Originally posted by fredandboboflo I think the point of the OP is that now any shmuck with an extra 50k is opening a small brewery without having any real brewing experience (beyond some homebrewing), and it shows. Most of the good breweries that have started in the past few years have brewers with some actual training somewhere. Can’t comment on the wineries. |
We’re seeing more or less the same thing in Sweden. The number of breweries have doubled in the last 2-3 years and many of the new ones have quality issues. On the other hand, most of those that are brewing great beers now also had problems when they started up. A few new breweries don’t seem to acknowledge their problems ("There’s nothing wrong with this beer, it’s supposed to taste like this. You’re probably just too used to Amarillo US-05 beers."), but I think most of them will improve over time. |
Hey in a couple of months we wont have craft breweries in Florida anymore. |
Originally posted by konstifik + 1 for the Norwegian scene; same thing is happening here. |
Bad beer will not sell forever. Even homers will abandon a brewery that makes inferior beer when a brewery that makes better beer opens nearby. |
I think the difference in metality between craft beer drinkers and BMC drinkers is brand lyoalty. I mean in craft the idea seems to be collect all the beer. So any kind of loyalty is going to fall with the locals/regionals I would think. That’s what is freshest, that should be what is cheapest and it should have a nice representation of styles that you can choose from. |
A couple of comments. First, a ton of the local breweries here in chicago, I have no idea who the people are running them. I’ve never seen their names in homebrew comps and don’t have clue where they learned to brew. This may seem myopic, but if you want genuine feedback, enter a handful of competitions. Win some awards and I may trust you. There’s something to be said for testing your ability to brew a classic style before adding a bunch if shot to it. Second, this community is a big part of the problem. It’s not due to the masses buying their shitty beer, it’s people like us that need to try new stuff. Also, to suggest that everybody else doesn’t know what good beer is and that we have better palates is bullshit. I’ve tasted with plenty of people that have a hard on for a vinegar bomb because it’s extra sour, or people that like their beer to taste like an ashtray( that’s fucking roasty, man!) or that think an imperial stout that finishes at 1.050 is okay... |
I agree that brewers credentials could stand to be a little more transparent. It just shows you know what you're doing and adds credibility to your product. As far as us nerds thinking we have a superior palette...it's not so much a superiority thing so much as an experience issue. Regardless of personal taste, the seasoned beer drinker can distinguish flavors and understand styles in a way that only experience and further education can provide. That's why good critics are so well respected. They are in tune with their palette in intense ways and can articulate their experience. The line between good and great between beers can be thin and I personally believe in critiquing and having high standards across any industry. It breeds innovation and rewards quality. |
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