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Fake BA AleSmith bottles


read 17820 times | 240 replies | posted 10/31/2007 10:51:28 AM
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ClarkVV 3578:90
Originally posted by kp
I hope this is a lesson for anyone attempting fraud in the future. Make sure you get the look of the bottle correct down to the foil and bottle markings. And if it is a BA beer, make sure you add a shot of whiskey to whatever beer you use to fill the bottle. Unless you’re trading with TBC as he never opens the rare bottles.


Amen. Moral of the story is for all RBeerians to do a much better job with bottle fraud.

If you’re going to defraud someone....that’s fine, just make sure you put some time and effort in to it.

This website is all about the finer things in life, and fraud should be held to no less of a standard.
11/1/2007 1:26:49 PM

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kp 8400:11
Originally posted by ClarkVV
Originally posted by kp
I hope this is a lesson for anyone attempting fraud in the future. Make sure you get the look of the bottle correct down to the foil and bottle markings. And if it is a BA beer, make sure you add a shot of whiskey to whatever beer you use to fill the bottle. Unless you’re trading with TBC as he never opens the rare bottles.


Amen. Moral of the story is for all RBeerians to do a much better job with bottle fraud.

If you’re going to defraud someone....that’s fine, just make sure you put some time and effort in to it.

This website is all about the finer things in life, and fraud should be held to no less of a standard.

And once we have versions implemented we can track the fraud version separately and see if it is getting higher ratings than the regular!
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11/1/2007 1:36:14 PM

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drewbeerme 2224:1
Originally posted by Ty5592
Originally posted by drewbeerme


Perhaps it is faulty logic, but I didn’t feel there was urgency to out this person because I don’t believe he’s still sending these bottles. If I thought other RB’s were in danger of being victimized then the details of this would have come out a lot sooner.



Funny, I’ve traded with the guy and beermailed you asking about the bottles. Even told you I had one coming. How do you know it wasn’t coming from him? Not saying you should have told me it was him, however.....


BM sent.
11/1/2007 1:37:38 PM

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Cletus 5002:169
Originally posted by kp
Unless you’re trading with TBC as he never opens the rare bottles.


In his case, water will do. evil grin
11/1/2007 3:22:44 PM

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TheBeerSommelier 0:0
Originally posted by jjpm74
Originally posted by kp
Unless you’re trading with TBC as he never opens the rare bottles.


In his case, water will do. evil grin


Screw you, John!



Oh, and congrats on 2000! thumbs up
11/1/2007 5:09:58 PM

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sprinkle 114:1
The one thing that above all should seem shady, is that the guy won’t even put his side of the story to this thread!hmmm...hmmm...hmmm...amotivational syndrome 11/1/2007 5:46:47 PM

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Cletus 5002:169
Originally posted by sprinkle
The one thing that above all should seem shady, is that the guy won’t even put his side of the story to this thread!hmmm...hmmm...hmmm...amotivational syndrome


The guy’s from Mexico. Maybe English isn’t his strong point.
11/1/2007 6:04:39 PM

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alafito 334:21
Originally posted by jjpm74
Originally posted by sprinkle
The one thing that above all should seem shady, is that the guy won’t even put his side of the story to this thread!hmmm...hmmm...hmmm...amotivational syndrome


The guy’s from Mexico. Maybe English isn’t his strong point.


Nope its not that its just that i dont search this web page that often, actually i heard of this thread from Andrew on Tuesday.
This is the last of the mails i interchanged with Peter Z. on the subject, "The beer cellar" has the rest of them:

Message from AleSmith
From: peter zien (peter@alesmith.com)
Sent:Monday, October 29, 2007 1:19:24 PM
Reply-to:peter@alesmith.com


To: ’RODOLFO AGUILAR’ (alafito@hotmail.com)





Dear Rodolfo,
Some time has passed since we tried to get to the bottom of the BA AleSmith beers, and I’m no closer to figuring it out. I do believe you and think that all three of us are victims of someone’s prank or whatever. I just want to apologize to you and your wife for this whole thing. I truly appreciate people like you who take the time to attend our events and support my brewery. I know that you and your wife could have done many other things that day, but chose to visit AleSmith. How or why this had to happen cannot be explained, but I need you to know that your support is greatly appreciated.

I’d like to offer some small gifts to you as well for the hassle. Please provide a shipping address, or if more convenient, please let me know when you’ll be in SD next and we can arrange to meet.

Again, sorry for the hassle and I do appreciate your cooperation and support.
Cheers,
Peter Zien
11/1/2007 6:13:56 PM

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mj 4975:600
Interesting. From the get go one of the thoughts I had was that perhaps a volunteer or "friend of the brewery" who was helping may have done this. 11/1/2007 6:29:23 PM

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puzzl 2579:70
Originally posted by alafito
Originally posted by jjpm74
Originally posted by sprinkle
The one thing that above all should seem shady, is that the guy won’t even put his side of the story to this thread!hmmm...hmmm...hmmm...amotivational syndrome


The guy’s from Mexico. Maybe English isn’t his strong point.


Nope its not that its just that i dont search this web page that often, actually i heard of this thread from Andrew on Tuesday.
This is the last of the mails i interchanged with Peter Z. on the subject, "The beer cellar" has the rest of them:

Message from AleSmith
From: peter zien (peter@alesmith.com)
Sent:Monday, October 29, 2007 1:19:24 PM
Reply-to:peter@alesmith.com


To: ’RODOLFO AGUILAR’ (alafito@hotmail.com)





Dear Rodolfo,
Some time has passed since we tried to get to the bottom of the BA AleSmith beers, and I’m no closer to figuring it out. I do believe you and think that all three of us are victims of someone’s prank or whatever. I just want to apologize to you and your wife for this whole thing. I truly appreciate people like you who take the time to attend our events and support my brewery. I know that you and your wife could have done many other things that day, but chose to visit AleSmith. How or why this had to happen cannot be explained, but I need you to know that your support is greatly appreciated.

I’d like to offer some small gifts to you as well for the hassle. Please provide a shipping address, or if more convenient, please let me know when you’ll be in SD next and we can arrange to meet.

Again, sorry for the hassle and I do appreciate your cooperation and support.
Cheers,
Peter Zien


Lucky you.
11/1/2007 6:30:48 PM

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