I’m thinking of making a beer with brett and German lager yeast. My plan is to start with brett then lager. But I’m wondering if there would be enough food for the brett if I were to add it after lagering to get any character. Any opinions? |
That’s exactly what this was |
Is he using bugs too? He didn’t say, so I’ll assume it’s just Brett which is of course a yeast. So....Brett and lager yeast will not get you Izzy or Cable Car. |
I guess I just assumed that he wanted to make a sour beer, and not just looking for a little brett character. If that’s the case then I agree with your logic but I still question why you’d want to use the lager yeast at all. Just use the brett by itself. |
Why do you assume he wants to make a sour beer? Brett fermentation does not equal sour beer... |
Originally posted by Zer0 And I corrected myself... but I still think it’s pointless to use the lager yeast at all if you want brett flavor. |
Originally posted by t0rin0 I don’t know if this is accurate. There have been a number of people that suggest using lager yeast in conjunction with Brett., due perhaps to conversion of some of the S containing compounds thrown by lager yeasts. As an example, NB ferments many of their sours with a lager yeast prior to the addition of souring bacteria and Brett. http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/detail.aspx?id=4e583fd6-95e4-4ea0-908c-4436f5dc8fa8 |
Originally posted by CLevar I can’t see this producing very prominent Brett character, as lager yeast (at lager temperatures) tend not to produce a high concentration of the vinyl phenols needed for Brett to reduce into their ethyl counterparts. Not saying that it would produce a bad beer, just not an overly "funky" one. That would, however, depend highly on the temperature at which he fermented his beer. As to the OP’s question, Brett character isn’t from fermentation, it is from conversion of certain chemicals into others, so the presence of fermentables isn’t necessary, but since Brett can ferment more complex sugars than can sacch., there will inevitably be food for it. |
Additionally, would love to see a recipe and technique on this beer, even if they are preliminary ones. Something, ANYTHING, to stimulate discussion here would be a godsend. |
Brewed this Saturday |
Leave it to HD and CLevar to make a geeky subject sound even geekier. |
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