Considering your critiques, I suggest you might want to try a higher alpha bittering hop for your 60 min addition (something like Magnum or Nugget, 14%+ AA) I usually use about 1 oz. I really like Amarillo and Galaxy, but I find Mosaic a little too fruity (very good, just not as awesome as the other two to my taste). Some people love it though. I would recommend Simcoe for a little bit more pine/bitterness to go with the nice tropical/citrusy flavors. You could replace your 15 min Citra with Simcoe and add an extra ounce of Amarillo at flameout, or something like that. |
For depth/longevity of bitterness, you may want to consider adding an ounce of Columbus (or one of the other aforementioned high alpha varieties) to your partial mash grains as a first wort hopping. |
The recipe looks pretty great as is. Are you whirlpooling with the knock out hops at all? |
Originally posted by JoeMcPhee As JulienHuxley said, Magnum would be a great choice for this beer. As would Horizon. That being said, the bittering charge would matter a hell of a lot less if you added more hops overall and ended up with more perceived bitterness. I think your recipe is a great start. You have a pretty simple grainbill, a highly attenuative, but poorly flocculent yeast, and a nice combination of hop varietals. The only thing that I would do different would be to up the amounts of late addition and dry hops. Personally, I would shoot for 6 oz. of each to bring your total hops up to an even pound. That bigger flame out addition will solve your hop fading problem and will give it a nose that you will be able to smell from a couple feet away. |
Originally posted by pellegjr This would be mash hopping, not first wort hopping, and would be a waste of an ounce of hops. |
Originally posted by Cletus I’ve never tried whirlpooling and am only vaguely familiar with the concept. I’ve really appreciated the input on how to fine tweak the hop makeup and schedule! I feel like I’m learning some things... thanks |
I’ll second shifting the hop schedule towards flame out, and the suggestion of using Warrior at 60 minutes instead of Cascade. Cascade is pretty high in cohumulone, which is more acrid than bitter. Other than that, the recipe looks pretty damn tasty! |
Malt bill looks good. I find cascade bittering a bit harsh so I’d sub that out. You really can’t go wrong with PNW hops at knock out and dry hop but I like to use only one big flashy hop like citra/mosaic/galaxy then use hops that support it well like cascade/Amarillo/simcoe/Columbus/centennial/chinook etc. try 2-4 different varieties. For an IPA I’d try a blend of 2-4oz at 5 and knock out then 4-6oz dry hop. It will not lack hop flavor or aroma that’s for sure. |
I like the ideas of a clean bittering hop to start, adding a little Simcoe for depth, and pushing the citrus hops later (and more). |
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