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Hilarious journal article on "bullshit" in wine ratings


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GT2 8427:598
Enjoy

this was just assigned reading to me at Hopkins
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Rciesla 5499:3
What do these descriptions tell us? Not counting color, and not being two fussy about
how we count the attributes, the fi rst description has 20, the second 8 and the last 15 taste
attributes. Consider the Yquem. The eight fl avors are honey, raisin, jam, quince, fi g, hazelnut,
orange and mandarin. The last two of these ďfi ll the mouth;Ē hence they are likely to
provide powerful taste sensations. We have only a hint of honey, raisin and jam and the
quince, fi g and hazelnut have only subtly aromas. Are we being told that these six subtle
aromas that are only hinted at are not drowned out by the powerful orange and mandarin
fl avors? This is bullshit of the first order.

Love this.
7/9/2012 10:39:21 PM

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Rciesla 5499:3
Then again, maybe one flavor like fig the person associated with other fruits so whenever they mention fig for example they always note attribute X,Y,Z and so forth. Thats more then likely the case, iím sure we are all guilty of this to some extent. And if you donít agree feel free to call me out on my Bullshit.
7/9/2012 10:42:14 PM

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Ch‚teau LíOrdure Pomerol, 2004. Fine minerality, dried apricots and cedar characterize this sage-laden wine bursting with black fruit and toasty oak. The inky wine
supported by dusty yet silky tannins surprises with its hint of orange overlaid on
crushed rock and is redolent with re? ned fruit, smoked game, hot ? g and graphite.
7/9/2012 10:50:41 PM

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MicroGrog 303:
Spicy earth
7/9/2012 11:08:50 PM

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steview 1019:20
I have that tiny bullshit book, On Bullshit. I donít know where I put it. Itís got that geeky humor thatíll satisfy you if youíve been involved in the subject matter. But otherwise, I thought it sucked. For the book On Bullshit, itís the subject of philosophy

Anyway, the rip on wine (beer) ratings was funny!
7/9/2012 11:31:13 PM

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erickok 3533:161
If anything, this confirms we need a Journal of Beer Economics. I will read that.
7/10/2012 12:01:57 AM

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Originally posted by steview
I have that tiny bullshit book, On Bullshit. I donít know where I put it. Itís got that geeky humor thatíll satisfy you if youíve been involved in the subject matter. But otherwise, I thought it sucked. For the book On Bullshit, itís the subject of philosophy

Anyway, the rip on wine (beer) ratings was funny!


We had to read On Bullshit for my PhD Quantitative Methods class, and actually did a whole assignment about measuring bullshit (there was a retort to the book and then Frankfurt responded to the retort). I thought it was pretty interesting, and it made me think twice and start verifying information on my own when someone says something Iím not sure of. Not that I needed a reason to be anymore cynical, but the fact is, most people are bullshitters - whether they mean to be or not. FYI, hereís the link to the book.

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html
7/10/2012 3:58:54 AM

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This article made me laugh. But letís face it, that same bullshit exists even on the beer ratings and descriptions here. I donít know how someone finds 10 types of fruits in an IPA description.
7/12/2012 11:23:58 PM

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DYCSoccer17 3319:300
Some ratings on this site read like horoscopes. List enough shit, and youíre bound to be correct on a few of them.
7/13/2012 12:19:06 AM

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Originally posted by Alen
This article made me laugh. But letís face it, that same bullshit exists even on the beer ratings and descriptions here. I donít know how someone finds 10 types of fruits in an IPA description.


well depends on the hops used and some esters come about as the beer warms while other fade to the background. 10 is a tall order for any beer but completely plausible.
7/13/2012 7:44:34 AM

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