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Hitler on a label


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Magicdave6 5490:50
Originally posted by after4ever
Originally posted by Ambassador
Disgusting is rather harsh. This obviously is not an hommage to Hitler. Or Tintin for that matter.

For using Hitler as a caricature, please turn your attention to the disgusting works of Charlie Chaplin, Mel Brooks and John Cleese.

Obviously these artists have realised that poking fun at dangerous ideas and policies will devaluate them.

This is really the key point here. Intent has an enormous amount to do with any public statement, commercial or otherwise.

We’re all just speculating as to what the intent of this label is, or what will happen when/if it hits the market. It’s not the strongest ridicule I’ve ever seen of Hitler, but it’s certainly not a glorification of him or his deeds.


I think this is the most valid point in this topic i recon.
6/25/2009 4:06:45 PM

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PilsnerPeter 2617:95
There have been myriads of genocides including (but not limited to):

The Romans drove the Jews from Jerusalem
The Crusades
The War of the Three Kingdoms
The Great Irish Famine
The Circassian Genocide
The Dzungars by the Qing Dynasty
Ottoman Empire:
Armenian Genocide,
Assyrian Genocide,
The Greek Genocide,
The Turkish Denial
The Soviet famine of 1932-1933
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88)
The Aborigines in Australia 1900-1969
Towards the end of the Zanzibar Revolution
The Guatemalan Civil War of 1968-1996
The Bangladesh War of 1971
Burundi 1972 and 1993
Equatorial Guinea
Cambodia (The Khmer Rouge) Polpot
East Timor under Indonesian occupation
Dirty War in Argentina
Sabra-Shatila in Lebanon
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
Ethiopia
1988 Anfal campaign
The Helmet Massacre
Democratic Republic of Congo
Rwanda (Hutu and Tutsis)
the Khojaly Massacre
The Nagorno-Karabakh War



By the way, Joseph Stalin triples the number of people murdered by Hitler, and Mao Ze Dong killed nearly 7times as many people as Hitler did....

"Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000


Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine’s famine)


Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)"
6/25/2009 4:10:02 PM

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stefanje 939:21
Originally posted by PilsnerPeter
There have been myriads of genocides including (but not limited to):

The Romans drove the Jews from Jerusalem
The Crusades
The War of the Three Kingdoms
The Great Irish Famine
The Circassian Genocide
The Dzungars by the Qing Dynasty
Ottoman Empire:
Armenian Genocide,
Assyrian Genocide,
The Greek Genocide,
The Turkish Denial
The Soviet famine of 1932-1933
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88)
The Aborigines in Australia 1900-1969
Towards the end of the Zanzibar Revolution
The Guatemalan Civil War of 1968-1996
The Bangladesh War of 1971
Burundi 1972 and 1993
Equatorial Guinea
Cambodia (The Khmer Rouge) Polpot
East Timor under Indonesian occupation
Dirty War in Argentina
Sabra-Shatila in Lebanon
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
Ethiopia
1988 Anfal campaign
The Helmet Massacre
Democratic Republic of Congo
Rwanda (Hutu and Tutsis)
the Khojaly Massacre
The Nagorno-Karabakh War



By the way, Joseph Stalin triples the number of people murdered by Hitler, and Mao Ze Dong killed nearly 7times as many people as Hitler did....

"Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000


Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine’s famine)


Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)"



Your point is that history is full of atrocities and Hitler is only the #3 bad guy, So this lable is OK?
6/25/2009 4:17:22 PM

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armando629 977:36
Stalin died in 1953...
But in my opinion the picture of Hitler when he sad Heil, it is a problem...And in my country, Hungary, it is a bigger problem, because we live in middle Europe, after the nazis and after the communists, and the radical side of the politics rise and rise and rise. Because of hate of communism and some people like gypsies. And some f..cker crazy people get this beer and said: Ye mean, Hitler on a beer! I simpatyze whit this asshole! I believe in Mein kampf, this is the true! But i do not believe in Holocaust....
It is a bigger problem in Europe than in the U.S. i think.

Originally posted by PilsnerPeter
There have been myriads of genocides including (but not limited to):

The Romans drove the Jews from Jerusalem
The Crusades
The War of the Three Kingdoms
The Great Irish Famine
The Circassian Genocide
The Dzungars by the Qing Dynasty
Ottoman Empire:
Armenian Genocide,
Assyrian Genocide,
The Greek Genocide,
The Turkish Denial
The Soviet famine of 1932-1933
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88)
The Aborigines in Australia 1900-1969
Towards the end of the Zanzibar Revolution
The Guatemalan Civil War of 1968-1996
The Bangladesh War of 1971
Burundi 1972 and 1993
Equatorial Guinea
Cambodia (The Khmer Rouge) Polpot
East Timor under Indonesian occupation
Dirty War in Argentina
Sabra-Shatila in Lebanon
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
Ethiopia
1988 Anfal campaign
The Helmet Massacre
Democratic Republic of Congo
Rwanda (Hutu and Tutsis)
the Khojaly Massacre
The Nagorno-Karabakh War



By the way, Joseph Stalin triples the number of people murdered by Hitler, and Mao Ze Dong killed nearly 7times as many people as Hitler did....

"Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000


Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine’s famine)


Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)"

6/25/2009 4:22:06 PM

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henrikb 1303:14
Cartoon, joke or what ever it is, I do not get why Christian wants "Hitler" on his beers label. 6/25/2009 4:25:01 PM

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yngwie 4950:82
Originally posted by puzzl
Originally posted by bethmatt0421
This is just about as petty as muslims getting upset over cartoons.


No its not. One of them is a depiction of your god that your religion says shouldn’t be depicted, the other is a depiction of someone who killed 6 million innocent people.

...and which a lot of guys now say shouldn’t be depicted...? Much the same IMO.

First of all, does it really look that much like Adolf? Damn, it’s just the moustache, isn’t it?

Second, there seems to be an Atlantic ocean of cultural differences between Scandinavians and USAians on such topics. I really don’t get the prudishness from the other side. Like your governments isn’t responsible for the killing of thousands of souls in Latin-America, Asia and Africa by supporting what rebels they thought might suit USA best. More years and less people, but I really don’t get you guys.

Third, I miss the cartoon afficionadas that protest on the "use" of Tintin. I guess the label is also a pun on how Belgium treated it’s African posessions for many, many years.

The stupid Austrian invaded my country too, with thousands of Norwegians being killed during the WWII (which btw didn’t last from 41-45), but that don’t mean we can’t joke with him. I also can’t see anything refraining us from making fun of Tintin.

BTW, what do you guys think of the Jesus/Easter label from the same brewery?
6/25/2009 4:27:21 PM

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armando629 977:36
Originally posted by henrikb
Cartoon, joke or what ever it is, I do not get why Christian wants "Hitler" on his beers label.

This is the right aspect...
6/25/2009 4:28:04 PM

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PilsnerPeter 2617:95
Originally posted by armando629
Stalin died in 1953...


Originally posted by PilsnerPeter




Correct!
6/25/2009 4:31:59 PM

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armando629 977:36
Originally posted by PilsnerPeter
Originally posted by armando629
Stalin died in 1953...


Originally posted by PilsnerPeter




Correct!

And Stalin and his guys killed a lot of people in the subregion of Eastern Europe, like in Hungary... Our country had some hutments, compounds and extermination camps too in the 50’s...We had a f...er tyrant too, in the 50’s, called Rákosi Mátyás. He was crazy and savage...And he killed a lot of hungarians too...
6/25/2009 4:43:13 PM

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CanIHave4Beers 873:54
Originally posted by henrikb
Cartoon, joke or what ever it is, I do not get why Christian wants "Hitler" on his beers label.


DUNK!
That’s the thing that’s been running through my head all day.
6/25/2009 4:44:08 PM

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