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Lactic Acid in brews

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TheHOFF43
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beers 1791 º places 121 º 11:53 Fri 9/21/2012

I have been told and read that some breweries use lactic acid in beer (for souring) and also to clean tanks and other equipment.

One thing I have plenty of access to (albeit in large volumes) is lactic acid due to my job.

I would be interested in trying this in some home brews if there is any evidence/guidance/support from this forum as I am not incredibly knowledgeable or experienced with homebrew projects aside from the very basics.

Cheers,
Kyle

 
HornyDevil
11:57 Fri 9/21/2012

Though Iíve not done it myself, those that have done this type of thing have reported that they ended up with very one-dimensional sourness. You can look on Oldsockís blog The Mad Fermentationist and he has some good info on it there.

 
TheHOFF43
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beers 1791 º places 121 º 12:08 Fri 9/21/2012

What about the prospects of breweries or homebrewers using it for cleaning?

 
seymour
beers 1684 º places 45 º 12:20 Fri 9/21/2012

I havenít heard of adding lactic acid to a recipe. Iíve brewed several sour beers, but itís lactic bacteria like acidopholous that creates the acid for me.

I donít know anything about using it for cleaning, sorry. My guess is that if it contains any of the souring bacteria, brewers would be very nervous using it. Rather, thatís the stuff youíre trying to clean away...

 
nathanjohnson
12:34 Fri 9/21/2012

Lactic acid can be used for lowering the mash pH, oftentimes in pale beers, eg, helles.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 12:36 Fri 9/21/2012

Most people use Phosphoric acid to clean with.

 
SamGamgee
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beers 2452 º places 182 º 15:41 Fri 9/21/2012

We use lactic acid to passivate new stainless steel in the brewery. But for cleaning, we use a nitric-phosphoric blend cleaner. You use acid cleaner to get rid of mineral build up like beer stone. It isnít good for cleaning organic residue, which is your standard soiling in a kettle or fermentor. For that you need an alkaline cleaner like PBW or caustic.

As far as in beer, Iíve had good berliner weisse that was soured with lactic acid, and itís great for lowering mash pH. I say give it a shot.

 
Fred82
beers 2117 º places 7 º 16:02 Fri 9/21/2012

Iím also quite curious about brewing a Berliner Weisse with Lactic Acid. They say it give a boring profile compared to the sour mash method (see Joe Mcpheeís recipe) but Iím still curious to see how it goes. Iíve read about someone who won a BJCP homebrew competition with a lactic acid based BW...

 
bitbucket
beers 2160 º places 63 º 08:07 Mon 9/24/2012

Originally posted by nathanjohnson
Lactic acid can be used for lowering the mash pH, oftentimes in pale beers, eg, helles.

Yes. It is the alternative to using acidulated malt, which as been sprayed with it. The malt is probably a bit more convenient to measure, less convenient to store.

 
JoeinDahlem
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beers 1378 º places 305 º 08:43 Mon 9/24/2012

You guys have much experience with acid/sour malt? I want to start playing with some of these crazy tropical fruits down here, and I think a simple tart Berliner base is the way to go. Suggestions for malt bills?

 
wnoble
beers 1251 º 08:55 Mon 9/24/2012

I used lactic acid in my last pilsner to treat all the mash water down to 6.0 prior to mash in and sparge. Worked well. great flavor profile.

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