How would you order them? We’re talking about the quality of beers, brewers and bars, bottle shops, beer culture, etc. |
Well if you take all those parameters into account then I would say Denmark. We have ølbutikken a host of great bars and some great breweries. |
Pretty much depends on how you see it. |
Originally posted by omhper Why would you rank sweden and finland higher then Denmark for bars? Simply because of the 1 off lambics that each country has at 1 bar? |
Originally posted by FrumptyDumpty I agree with Per as far as the bars are concerned. I spent a week in Sweden this summer visiting five different bars ranging from excellent to world class, and that was just in Gothenburg and Stockholm. According to the Places section I missed several others in those two cities that were equally good, but there was just not enough time. In Denmark most of the good bars are concentrated in Copenhagen, and beyond those six or seven, there are just another five or so in the rest of the country that deserves recognition. My theory on this is that in Sweden you have to go to bars to get exciting beer (Systembolaget has some, but that wouldn’t last me a month if I lived there), whereas in Denmark we have a lot of great beer shops. This makes the market smaller for the bars. Then again that’s just my theory. |
I have yet to visit sweden but that theory makes sense. What are the breweries that make sweden win out? |
Originally posted by FrumptyDumpty Sweden doesn’t win in terms of breweries. It wins in terms of bars. The best Swedish breweries I had beer from were Närke Dugges Jämtland Nynäshamn Oppigård It was just 20 beers from these five breweries in total, but they had a consistent high level. I’m not a big fan of lagers, but I was impressed with the lagers from the above mentioned breweries. Very few Danish micros make interesting lagers. |
Sorry was referring to ompher saying sweden made better beer on average which I do not believe. |
Originally posted by FrumptyDumpty I would problably also say that Sweden wins on that point, though the top Danish breweries are better than the top Swedish breweries. |
Originally posted by konstifik I haven’t tried enough smaller Swedish breweries to know their general level, but I have tried plenty of Danish micros to know that I wouldn’t shed a tear if a third of them closed tomorrow. I just has to be the right third. Although the level is said to have improved at the latest Copenhagen Beer Festival, it’s only a month ago that I had eight different beers from two small Danish micros, and there was something wrong with each and every bottle. The sell this stuff for 50 DKK for 50 cl at a respectable bar, and it is really poorly crafted. I fail to understand why these two breweries are still in business, but I suppose it must be something along the lines of local patriotism. In addition to poorly crafted beers, there is also a ton of bland Dansih micro brews available. I only had a few bland Swedish micros, but then agian I have only tried 43 different Swedish beers in total. If Sweden has fewer of the lousy or bland beers, then they might very well win on average, but that doesn’t mean that their top level is higher than the Danish. |
Yeah there are a handful of really bad brewers in Denmark. I have also had some bad beer from sweden as well but have not tried enough beer from there to comment on the average quality. I simply say Denmark is a better place for beer due to the level of beer put out by the good breweries over other Scandinavian countries. |
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