Portland brewery apologises over Hindu name

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Message JK beers 7296 º places 442 º 21:39 Thu 5/24/2012 Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by mcberko Originally posted by Ryan82SM Originally posted by DuffMan Freedom of speech and expression is part of what makes North American society great. Respecting a peaceful minority’s polite request is also part of what makes us great. Well done Burnside. +1. Good to see that someone gets it. Obviously, the brewer did; why can’t the folks on this thread? Because anyone can claim to be offended by anything out there. And religion always get special treatment in this area - if you’re offended, tough shit. Ignore it or turn away. You’re actually taking away people’s freedom of speech and expression by imposing on others the restriction of having to consider other people’s fragile religious feelings by something as innocuous as a beer name. Great commentary on this here at around 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs Since when is freedom of speech the right to say whatever you want? I guess I come from the school of thought that our ’rights’ are actually responsibilities. This thread really should be moved to OTM now. Since pretty much always. Here, in this country, we don’t have a Bill of Responsibilities. Your buddy Glenn Beck disagrees. See #2. http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/24/declaration-of-rights-responsibilities/ Your buddy, Glen Beck.
Message dcschiller beers 2208 º places 45 º 21:42 Thu 5/24/2012 Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by mcberko Originally posted by Ryan82SM Originally posted by DuffMan Freedom of speech and expression is part of what makes North American society great. Respecting a peaceful minority’s polite request is also part of what makes us great. Well done Burnside. +1. Good to see that someone gets it. Obviously, the brewer did; why can’t the folks on this thread? Because anyone can claim to be offended by anything out there. And religion always get special treatment in this area - if you’re offended, tough shit. Ignore it or turn away. You’re actually taking away people’s freedom of speech and expression by imposing on others the restriction of having to consider other people’s fragile religious feelings by something as innocuous as a beer name. Great commentary on this here at around 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs Since when is freedom of speech the right to say whatever you want? I guess I come from the school of thought that our ’rights’ are actually responsibilities. This thread really should be moved to OTM now. Since pretty much always. Here, in this country, we don’t have a Bill of Responsibilities. Your buddy Glenn Beck disagrees. See #2. http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/24/declaration-of-rights-responsibilities/ Your buddy, Glen Beck. I think your OT-M posts align closer to his views than mine do.
Message dcschiller beers 2208 º places 45 º 21:45 Thu 5/24/2012 Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by mcberko Originally posted by Ryan82SM Originally posted by DuffMan Freedom of speech and expression is part of what makes North American society great. Respecting a peaceful minority’s polite request is also part of what makes us great. Well done Burnside. +1. Good to see that someone gets it. Obviously, the brewer did; why can’t the folks on this thread? Because anyone can claim to be offended by anything out there. And religion always get special treatment in this area - if you’re offended, tough shit. Ignore it or turn away. You’re actually taking away people’s freedom of speech and expression by imposing on others the restriction of having to consider other people’s fragile religious feelings by something as innocuous as a beer name. Great commentary on this here at around 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs Since when is freedom of speech the right to say whatever you want? I guess I come from the school of thought that our ’rights’ are actually responsibilities. This thread really should be moved to OTM now. Since pretty much always. Here, in this country, we don’t have a Bill of Responsibilities. Your buddy Glenn Beck disagrees. See #2. http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/24/declaration-of-rights-responsibilities/ Glen Beck is not a constitutional lawyer, he’s just some dude with an opinion. Roll your eyes all you like, his opinion means nothing in regard to free speech and freedom of expression. Oh, the irony.

Message Sevenlee beers 1845 º places 82 º 05:57 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by DYCSoccer17 Originally posted by Sevenlee http://www.eturbonews.com/29232/portland-brewery-apologizes-over-hindu-reference-beer Burnside Brewing Co. has apologised over the name it chose for their chili infused wheat beer. There’s always someone to ruin a cool name. I wonder what Hindus might think of this little gem from Brazil. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OobIWpR_Wuc/Tun6k_qKI1I/AAAAAAAACnk/Ndm8bWR8CDw/s1600/Colorado%2BVixnu%2B1.5.jpg The label looks to be purely plagiarized from the original Lost Coast Indica IPA. They had to change their label because the Hindu character was holding a beer in his hand as well. Which looks plagiarised? I think they all look similar but not the same.
Message miketd beers 5 º places 125 º 07:07 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by mcberko Originally posted by Ryan82SM Originally posted by DuffMan Freedom of speech and expression is part of what makes North American society great. Respecting a peaceful minority’s polite request is also part of what makes us great. Well done Burnside. +1. Good to see that someone gets it. Obviously, the brewer did; why can’t the folks on this thread? Because anyone can claim to be offended by anything out there. And religion always get special treatment in this area - if you’re offended, tough shit. Ignore it or turn away. You’re actually taking away people’s freedom of speech and expression by imposing on others the restriction of having to consider other people’s fragile religious feelings by something as innocuous as a beer name. Great commentary on this here at around 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs Since when is freedom of speech the right to say whatever you want? I guess I come from the school of thought that our ’rights’ are actually responsibilities. This thread really should be moved to OTM now. Since pretty much always. Here, in this country, we don’t have a Bill of Responsibilities. Your buddy Glenn Beck disagrees. See #2. http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/24/declaration-of-rights-responsibilities/ Glen Beck is not a constitutional lawyer, he’s just some dude with an opinion. Roll your eyes all you like, his opinion means nothing in regard to free speech and freedom of expression. Oh, the irony. What I find ironic is you using Glen Beck to back up your position. Most of the time he is a raving lunatic, with nothing of value to say. Isn’t that what most libs say? Just because a group of people get offended, that doesn’t change our constitutional right to free speech. And one guy, or several, that have a contrary opinion does not change it either.
Message miketd beers 5 º places 125 º 07:13 Fri 5/25/2012 GB’s "Bill of Responsibilities" # 3: 3. Because I have freedom of speech, I have the responsibility to defend the speech of others, even if I strongly disagree with what they’re saying. I guess you missed that one.
Message dcschiller beers 2208 º places 45 º 07:32 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by JK Originally posted by dcschiller Originally posted by mcberko Originally posted by Ryan82SM Originally posted by DuffMan Freedom of speech and expression is part of what makes North American society great. Respecting a peaceful minority’s polite request is also part of what makes us great. Well done Burnside. +1. Good to see that someone gets it. Obviously, the brewer did; why can’t the folks on this thread? Because anyone can claim to be offended by anything out there. And religion always get special treatment in this area - if you’re offended, tough shit. Ignore it or turn away. You’re actually taking away people’s freedom of speech and expression by imposing on others the restriction of having to consider other people’s fragile religious feelings by something as innocuous as a beer name. Great commentary on this here at around 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs Since when is freedom of speech the right to say whatever you want? I guess I come from the school of thought that our ’rights’ are actually responsibilities. This thread really should be moved to OTM now. Since pretty much always. Here, in this country, we don’t have a Bill of Responsibilities. Your buddy Glenn Beck disagrees. See #2. http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/24/declaration-of-rights-responsibilities/ Glen Beck is not a constitutional lawyer, he’s just some dude with an opinion. Roll your eyes all you like, his opinion means nothing in regard to free speech and freedom of expression. Oh, the irony. What I find ironic is you using Glen Beck to back up your position. Most of the time he is a raving lunatic, with nothing of value to say. Isn’t that what most libs say? Just because a group of people get offended, that doesn’t change our constitutional right to free speech. And one guy, or several, that have a contrary opinion does not change it either. That I used Glenn Beck to counter JK’s argument IS the point. Who ever said this was a Constitutional issue? Pulling things out of thin air, eh? I never said anyone couldn’t comment or criticize. My point is our right to free speech comes with responsibilities. I’m surprised you would find fault in this considering a constant conservative view is that only conservatives understand personal responsibility.

Message dcschiller beers 2208 º places 45 º 07:34 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by miketd GB’s "Bill of Responsibilities" # 3: 3. Because I have freedom of speech, I have the responsibility to defend the speech of others, even if I strongly disagree with what they’re saying. I guess you missed that one. Actually, I didn’t miss that one. Nice try. Although I think this one is more relevant to the topic: 2. Because I have the right to worship as I choose, I have the responsibility to honor the right of others to worship as they see fit.
Message cbkschubert beers 2901 º places 44 º 07:34 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by DYCSoccer17 Lawyer it up, California Hindus: http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-002558.php I’m offended every time is see a group of Muslims burning an American flag on TV. How do I go about suing them? I think every American should receive $1000 for that offense. We live in a hyper sensitive society today. Sad.
Message dcschiller beers 2208 º places 45 º 08:03 Fri 5/25/2012 Originally posted by miketd GB’s "Bill of Responsibilities" # 3: 3. Because I have freedom of speech, I have the responsibility to defend the speech of others, even if I strongly disagree with what they’re saying. I guess you missed that one. Mike, we’re really getting into 2 different arguments here. One is the Constitutional issue that you brought up. It’s your Constitutional right to think that the label issue is a whole lot of nothing. You are failing to understand why the label is offensive to some Hindus. And that’s ok, but I’m going to use my right to free speech to tell you that you don’t understand it. The real issue is Burnside did the right thing. They had every right to print that label and run with it. They also have the insight to realize that it’s not that big a deal to change the label because it does offend a segment of society. There is no benefit to Burnside to escalate the sitution. Per the article, Burnside and the Hindu group that brought this up seem to be content with the solution. The actual parties that this issue affects are happy with the result. I just don’t know why you or anyone else has a problem with it.